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My first introduction, well, I did, uh, sales trainings for a couple of years and, um, at some time we came on the point that the people that we do a good job, but on some point the people don’t do what we teach them because, They have kind of fears of getting a know from the persons they are contacting or getting in touch with.
And so we came up and were looking around how can we fix this issues or the blockages? And then we found a hypnotherapist and we did a big, did a few big trainings with him and I saw how quick. There is a change from, Well, I’m not good at call calls and I don’t have the, uh, yeah, how can I say that? I’m, the people had anxiety mm-hmm.
to get in touch with unknown people to do call calls and, uh, the change was very quick, very fast with outstanding success. That was my first contact with hyp. And at some point I decided, well, it’s nice to help them to get more income. . On the other hand, it could also be nice to help people with real problems.
And so I decided to, uh, leave the sales business and go into the therapy field. Yeah. Yeah. So, but basically back to that sales experience. The, the strategies were sound, if people followed through the motions of what the guidance was, they were successful. But the issue that had to be overcome was that mental block, that anxiety to, to actually do the strateg.
Yeah. Yeah. That’s it. So the, the problem was we give them all the techniques, how to be a better salesperson, but when you have a blockage, you will not use it. And I think you just described about 99% of the people who attend hypnosis trainings. Well, yes, some of them. So when I’m looking around here in Germany at the colleagues, there are also some, Yeah.
Colleagues who also have a little anxiety to use the tools. Mm-hmm. , they got in a training so it’s, But hey, they come to a training, they want to learn something new so you can help them during the training to overcome this blockages. . Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. We’re, we’re sometimes just having the right strategies, feeling in a better place, whether it’s for the hypnotherapist, uh, a better set of skills, a better thing in the, in the tool bag, as it were to jump into the session.
Or, you know, even for the stage hypnotist, here are some better routines that I can, I can fold in. So, You were there as the, as the sales trainer looking to empower a staff, then discovering your own mechanisms to go in and empower clients in a similar way. What, what were your next steps in terms of moving forward?
Well, I, so we hired the hypnotist and he worked with regression, so I learned a lot of just watching and looking what he was doing, and after. Two years of just watching and just a little working with hypnosis. From that, what I’ve seen, I decided to take a hypnosis training and I took this training. It was a just a basic training.
and then I was infected by the hypnosis bureaus , and took further trainings and was just building the business. You know, as I always say, the rest is history. This is five years ago, and in December, no, in December. In the middle of 2013, I decided completely to close the sales business and just go only with hypnotherapy.
So, yeah, and I’m just, when something good is looking around, I take this training. Yeah. And my, Then in the summer of 2013, I took the Omni Hypnosis Training. Mm-hmm. . And in the, in March, 2014, I went to Florida to Jerry Kind and took the Omni. Instructor training, and this is, Yeah, and I did my first hypnosis class, my own class where I was the instructor in May, 2014.
So yeah, this is. What it is, . I love it. I love it. There’s a, there’s a session that I just recently did with Scott Sandlin and he brought up the theme of soft skills, that the things that we’re bringing to the hypnosis profession, the things we’re bringing to our sessions perhaps, that weren’t necessarily learned from hypnosis trainings.
What would you say from that sales training experience? Uh, first of all, I have to ask, uh, what was it that you were. In the sales training? Well, I was selling the sales training and I was the sales trainer. So before I came into the sales training business, I was an insurance broker. So that was way before, and at some point there was this big sales training company in Germany, and the CEO of the firm came over and said, Well, I think you should.
not be longer a customer of as you should stand on the under of the other side, on the table and just do the training. Well, and that was, Yeah, it was in 2009 or the years before. I’m not so old. So , yeah, the nine years before I worked as an insurance broker and then I did the four years of sales training and we just, well, we did the sales training and we were selling our trainings to the people.
Yeah. So, um, so then what, from that experience carried over, would you say? Uh, very often in a hypnosis training, you’ll have people in the room commenting that on certain techniques or certain principles. Wow, I’ve already been doing this. Uh, what, uh, just, I now have a name for it. I can do it on purpose.
What, what was it from that, from that insurance or even from the sales training experience? Do you feel prepared? You, Well, for the hypnotherapy, Oh, I think there was nothing which prepared me for the different therapy and so let me ask a leading question. I get an answer now. Fantastic. . Yeah, because, so I think some techniques of the, So we did, there was not a, just a regular or basic sales training.
There were a lot. Little therapy techniques for sure. Short time intervention stuff in it. So that prepared me so, and one of the favorite things I did in the safe training was just building trust with unknown people in a very short time. So this helps me with my client or with my students in the class.
So, I never took an n a NLP training, but when people are good with NLP and they hear how the way I talk, they often say, Well, you did a lot of NLP training. Mm-hmm. , I never did. So yeah. I think that helps a little. I, I think so too. And I, I share, there’s a common through line that. So often, in my opinion, so much of our hypnosis profession, and, and this goes the opposite way too, so much of the people who are purely trained in hypnosis often have this perspective that something about NLP is rather magical because they haven’t yet studied it themselves.
And the opposite is also true. The person who is more purely NLP thinks the hypnosis side is magic because they really haven’t st. Stuttered it, studied it. To look at so much of nlp, I mean the origins of it. Were people who were, um, be doing behavior modeling. What is it that people naturally do that makes them effective at what they do?
And how do we model it and how do we do it again, on purpose to give the complete oversimplification of it? So, you know, it’s where, again, you did not necessarily have the trading, but it’s all based in effective communication, which you wouldn’t have been successful in insurance or even sales training if you weren’t in the first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally, I totally agree and I think, so my best most training was just watching this very good therapist working with people. So, because all I learned in the training two years later, I already knew because I saw hundreds of sessions and. , you know, then you just, you start and figure out what is he doing and all that.
So on, and after two weeks watching him, I already knew, well, okay, the next step, he’s doing this and this and this. So you see and learn and just, yeah, kind of model it or copy it and do it. The same with your own style and voice and all that stuff. So then moving into nowadays, uh, is there a certain niche market?
Is there a certain specialty that you found yourself falling into? No. No. Niche ? No, no, no. Just, Well, so I love to work with people who have. Well, I, let me say kind of heart mental disorders, like post traumatic stress disorder or depression. So many of my clients in the therapy office come with this problems, but they are also, Well, I love to work with every disease or with every problem they show up.
What I not do is smoking cessation and weight loss, so, . I do all the other stuff. Yeah. Any, any specific reason why it or has that just not come to you? Well, uh, I don’t like working with smokers. Mm-hmm. , it’s just, I don’t know why, it’s just, I can’t even explain it. But in the, all of the years I did the hypnosis, I have had.
10 smoking cessation sessions, which is not very much when I look over the years, how many clients I saw, and I think two or three weight loss sessions. So there is a, a message out in the universe which says he don’t want that , and it’s, I like all the other stuff, but I don’t know why. I don’t like smoking cessation and weight loss.
Well, there’s different, yeah, there’s different sides to that. There’s sometimes where, you know, the, the, let’s label it, The C would hear that and go, Oh, that’s because he is not good at that though. I back it up from the business side. That really, it’s our business. It’s our office. We’re allowed to pick the things that we like working with.
And I have, I have my certain categories that, uh, now they change over time, certain categories. I chair one. I kept running into that. I was just dreading. And now I found okay, I’m actually quite good at that now and I enjoy it. Um, that, you know, the, the sort of flaw sometimes of working with the stop smoking or the weight loss client is, there’s a very.
Measured point of success. They’ve either stopped smoking or they’ve lost the weight, or they haven’t, and damned it didn’t work. Um, or, or they didn’t work to label part of the process. Uh, when with anxiety, you know, with confidence issues, with fears, there’s this different measurement that there, it, it’s.
Opening up a different style of life for them. And the opposite of all of this, the, these are all things that have very defined outcomes. And the category that I was running into was, well, I just feel stuck and I don’t know what I wanna do with my life. And I’m having to ask the question enough. Well, what would you like to do?
I don’t know yet. How would you like things to be different? I don’t want them to be the way they are and I wasn’t getting that well formed outcome. Is that That might be a cultural thing. Is that something you ever run into with clients in Germany? Not yet, but sometimes clients, So I know colleagues who have those.
Type of clients, but it’s not that often. So maybe something different over there. In the US we don’t have that problem here in Germany, so I’ve never heard that people show up with this problems very often. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Which for those that are curious, the strategy of that just basically became, Several positive based regressions, drawing out resources, drawing out confident moments, and then utilizing that in some form.
So then, uh, you spend most of your time, you mentioned diseases, you mentioned, uh, ptsd. Uh, let, let’s kind of play the game for a moment to say that, uh, I’m sure every client session is its own unique approach, though. Someone’s coming into your office, what’s, What’s the takeaway? What’s the kind of feeling that you want them to have going through the experience with you?
Well, I want them to, when they came or show up or come in, someone who’s depressed, you can see it in his face. And I love it and love it to see when they leave the office and they smile over the whole. . Yeah. Or when I get a, so that they feel something big is or happened during the session, they just, you know, they came in just depressed and, Huh, my life is boring and I, I’m sad and all that stuff.
And they leave the office and say, Well, hey, I have a new life. This is what I love to. . Yeah. And to unpack that, is there one specific set of skills? Is there a specific approach that you’re using to, to get that smile and get that foot in the door? ? Well, yeah. It’s, it’s you. I, I guess you know what I do? I usually start with a Simpson protocol session.
Mm-hmm. and then we see what, what, Well, going further and looking. , Is it enough this one session with the Simpson Protocol, or is the second session necessary? If yes, we go on with kind of a universal therapy, which Jerry Kind developed, which is self forgiveness, forgiveness for others, and then maybe if necessary, Agree, just the regular regression, but most of the time the thing is fixed after Simpson protocol and the universal therapy.
So the forgiveness of self and others. This is my approach, what I do and the. Well, the outcomes from the clients are outstanding. Yeah. Yeah. And those are outstanding protocols, of course. So then as you’re working with people and of course standing on some, some great instructors over the years, uh, let’s play the game then of part of the informed child aspect of regression is if, if I knew then what I know now, uh, to, to start it all over again.
Uh, what thinking, what approaches, what lessons have you have you picked up from really being someone who’s jumped in and seen a bunch of clients yourself? Well, let me think about it. , what have I picked? Well, yeah, because when you saw that much clients and, Well, the thing I learned is just do it. Mm-hmm.
don’t ask, don’t bring your, your, your. No, I’m missing the word. Um, your judgment in. So what I always see is that colleagues hypnotists go out there and when someone shows up and say, I’ll have this or this problem, and then their judgment is jumping in and say, Well, it’s say, Yeah, that must be this or that, or, so I learned, just go in, have the.
just do it. Mm-hmm. , that is what I learned because every client is different. So one of my useful sessions was, it was after my training, the fourth or fifth session after my, my first real training was a lady. She showed up because she. , she had a, uh, has a company, a big company with employees, but she’s always broke.
It’s a wonderful firm. Um, everything is working, but she’s always broke. And so we jumped in, did the regression, and she had the good luck that her father laughs she so much because she was his wife or her mother was cheating on the father and. She was his kind of slave because she was the child of the cheat.
And so he abused her several times. And when she was at the age of 14 or 15, he sent his friends to abuse her. Mm. So, and when you have a session like this short after your training, And nobody tells you in hypnosis training, well, you can just jump into a rape thing or a abuse thing. Then you learn how to do it and how to fix problems like this.
So this is what I also bring with into my trainings to prepare the new HYP notice test that they can just jump in issues like. Yeah, you never, you never know what’s in a session. You never know what’s beneath the surface coming in. It’s why, you know, there’s so many of us that, in terms of trainings, would, uh, you know, if we’re gonna teach a segment on regression, here’s the video, as opposed to, Hey, who wants to come up?
Because you don’t know where you’re gonna end up in that scenario. . Well, yeah, so for luck, I’ve never had that into a training because I love to do live sessions and trainings and don’t show only videos. Mm-hmm. , So I have to knock on wood. Yeah. , but, well, Oh, I do live for, I do the live for basically everything else, but for this, it’s the, Hey, here’s a video clip.
Okay. Well, yeah, I love to do. Also in life, just because you never know what happens. And this is, yeah. I also kind of force my students to train during the class, to train the regression, just because when they did it for one time, and you know, the first time is always the hardest time. Mm-hmm. and then, well, it worked good for the last year.
So I hope that it is working good for the, for the future. And they are, they are leaving the class prepared, so, yeah. Yeah. So there’s a theme that I’d love to chat with you about, which is that, uh, the mindset of streamlining the process that not necessarily to speed it up, to get through it faster, but just over time as we find our own style, there’s these moments where I used to do these extra things and then I found if I pulled them out, I got the same result.
Um, ha. Have you found that as a theme at all inside of your own work? Mm, Not yet. No, not yet. . So now that we’ve said that you will , maybe it will show up in the future. So, I don’t know. I’m open for everything. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a specific, uh, client story that perhaps comes to mind in terms of what, uh, you know, you mentioned that the, the mindset was getting over from the sales side of things into working with clients, a story that comes to mind of, uh, of a client where their change really helped to inspire this transition into the, into the hypnosis career.
Well, I have, uh, several clients who. Changed their career after no session. So, um, there was this one couple. First I worked with the husband and then his wife showed up in one of these, uh, group trainings we did for the sales people. And after that she was so, so excited about the whole thing that they both decided six month later that they are going to.
They have Nosis training and now they haven’t. Well, they have a good running office. So that was just one client. But when I, Let me think of, I think over the last years there were up to five clients I had, which, who changed career after the session, So yeah, and the. Interesting thing is that they also had already clients who also changed.
So the latest one was a teacher who had a depression, and after his two sessions with one of my former clients, he decided, Well, teaching students is nice, but I think he will do something more. And so he decided, That he’s going to take a hypnosis training in July this year. And then he’s, he, he plans to start a new career.
So I think that could often could happen very often. Yeah. Yeah. So something about unlocking that, that door to the change and inspiring others to, to jump aboard. Yeah. I’ve, I’ve never heard that people started to think. Changing a career when they use or see how their car is fixed or something . So I, I think we just do something which is helping this place make a better place or the world make a better world, however you will call it.
Yeah. So as much as we can chat about the hypnosis side of things and what types of clients and what types of techniques, uh, let’s spend a few moments on the business side. How do most of your clients end up discovering you? Well, they just use Google. Mm-hmm. so, so well, that’s not the whole truth. So I have many clients who saw videos on YouTube from me, and they saw me and say, Okay, this guy.
Knows what he’s talking about. He’s just a nice guy. So I will get in touch with him. And the other thing is, in Germany we have, um, we have a very big website where you can review medical or health care people. So, and when you write a revenue or Yeah, then you just. You show up. So when you are looking on this thing and you are looking for psychotherapy in Hamburg, then my name is one of the first three names.
So, and then well, who you gonna call? Mm-hmm. , the one with no reviews at the second or third page, or one on the, Yeah, one of the first free guys. So it’s mostly. . Yeah. And, and Google. So I don’t do advertising. I don’t do offline marketing. I’m, I’m a kid of, so I was born in 1981, so internet is my thing. Yeah.
What about the same age? I was born in 82. I, I, yeah. So I, I don’t believe in advertising and. Magazines or just giving brochures away? Uh, I believe in Google. Yeah, absolutely. So then now of course we don’t just wake up and suddenly find ourselves in that top listing or at the top of the search results. So you mentioned that video has been a big part of what you do at the first time.
Yeah. When you were just So I was, When I started with the hypnosis, I was in a little town near to Berlin. So that was easy to go there on place one and the Google ranking, because all the other therapists don’t know how to use Google. Mm-hmm. , they just were there. So, but I started and figured out video is a good thing because they can build a little rapport with you.
They see how you speak or they hear and see it, they see you and that makes it easy to get in touch with. . So over the years, so it changed a little to this, uh, to this healthcare website. But all over the years, I would say 80% of my clients came because they saw videos on YouTube. And are these videos that you’re continuing to make or are they ones that you made years ago and are still working for you?
Well, I made them years ago and they are still working, but I also, Well, the last video I uploaded was last year after Hypno Thoughts and Vegas. So what, I have tons of videos, but, uh, the problem is I don’t have the time to edit them. Yes. . And the next thing is, well, I speak German. On the video so I can find a guy on the Philippines to edit the videos.
So this is my problem. Yeah, just to find someone who’s good at that. Just to say, okay, you can edit them and just upload and do all what is necessary. Mm-hmm. , it’s not easy to find here, so, Right. Yeah, I imagine. I never thought of that. Cuz as much as I talk about outsourcing, you know, very clearly I’m reaching out to people who are also speaking English, but there are around the world.
Although I chair, I don’t know if this would actually work. Um, what I tend to do with some of my videos, there’s a, there’s a video clip that’s going around. Uh, this week, that’s just a little two minute routine. I did at a stage hypnosis show, um, that, uh, you know what, what I usually do for the video editing is I will do the first edit, which basically means I crop the beginning and I crop the end, and then I leave it, and then someone else my language is, goes in and makes it pretty, um mm-hmm.
but still there’s the content in the middle where they’re punching it up and adding titles. But, uh, yeah, if the, if the language barrier is that challenge, though, I am. Flashing to a story, which is gonna sound wonderfully impressive, but it really wasn’t, um, was I got a custom suit made one time in France, uh, by a man who only spoke Spanish.
Uh oh. But because I took three years of German and he spoke German, that was the closest we could get to have a conversation. and the suit fit. But, uh, yeah. Yeah, that, that tends to be that challenge, uh, . So, Well then, uh, what, what types of videos over the years, are there specifics that keep coming back to you?
That this is the one that’s really working for. , Well, the most viewed video and the one which is really working very good is a short three minute explanation, how to do self dpn. Hmm. With the very basic technique. And this video is has, oh God, I have to lie, I think 350,000 or 450,000 views, and it’s online since.
December 32nd to 15, so not that long. And it’s the most viewed self hypnosis video for German speaking people on YouTube. Nice. So this is what is very, Yeah. Working very good. And the good thing is it brings clients from all over the German speaking area. So Germany, all areas from Germany, Switzerland, Austria.
I also had clients from France, from Poland, so it’s nice. Yeah, I love that. And especially there’s, uh, a man by the name of David Siteman Garland that he’s over here in the US and, uh, his. His program that he taught years ago, uh, was called, um, Create, uh, Awesome interviews or something of that nature. Most of the people who do podcasts, uh, don’t know that they’re actually doing David’s show.
That’s kind of his legacy that he did this program called Rise to the Top and. It’s perfect timing. Today, I’m on his email list and he sends out an email that basically says, Don’t follow this advice. And there apparently was someone who said, Don’t ever teach anything in your marketing because otherwise no one will buy from you.
And , I love your laughter on that one because there’s an exact opposite. Example that because you were sharing something of value, whether it’s reciprocity, whether it’s providing proof, or whether it’s just building rapport because you’re sharing an experience together. It’s not the call me now book this session.
It’s the here you can learn something moment. Yeah. Well, yeah, that’s so yeah, giving the people kind of. Daily. Yeah. Not say life hack, how the media says here in Europe. So what to help them just, Yeah. To teach something or show a little. Just the secrets of hypnosis helps to get in touch with them. Yeah, especially with something that’s brand new to them.
I mean, many people haven’t actually done the hypnosis process before, and even if they have, you use a lot of interactive emotional release strategies. I do the same, and they may have gone a route before that was just basically relaxation and positive suggestion, which does get a good response from many clients at times.
But to get that experience of what it’s like with you. . Yeah. So, and, and the other thing also good is for the clients. I have a lot of testimonials from clients on the website and also on YouTube. And I had one lady years ago because the testimonial video, say the name of the person and where the person is living and she called every one of them.
Nice and asked, Well, you, you said this and that in this video. Is it the truth? And well, she just was calling me then and said, Well, I called all your clients on the video, so, well that was not the plan yet, that you just go out and call them. But hey, it worked. So, and this is what also builds kind of a rapport for the people that they see.
Okay? They are real people. Who share their story of the hypnosis session, and it helps also to get kind of trust. Well, I can go to this. You know, if all things I’ve actually had that exact experience where in most cases on a testimonial form or something written, I’ll just simply say, Hey, is it okay if I just mention your first name and where you’re located?
So it might say, John Arlington, Virginia, though. Mm-hmm. , when I pull out the video camera, if it’s someone who is willing to do a video testimonial, you know, I’ll even give them that introduction and then they sit there and. Hi, my name is Jason Lynette, and they say their entire name and they say their location.
And I have one guy specifically that for quitting smoking. Uh, he reached out to me, he goes, Hey, have you heard yet from this person? It’s like, Well, uh, yeah, I have Are they a friend of yours? No, they just called me randomly. I just figured I’d check in. So that they have a name that there’s not many of that name in this area.
And they looked him up and called, which on one side could be slightly creepy, but on the other side of things, he was friendly guy, answered every question and became that stream. So there’s something to be said about the, the community, uh, of people coming in. . Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Yeah. Well, and, and I, I also think it’s kind of for many people, so I don’t know what it is in the US but especially over here in Germany or in the, in Europe, it’s hypnosis is kind of a new thing.
Yeah. It’s not that you have. Behavioral therapy or just, you know, Zigman Freud talking and speaking and all that stuff. So it’s kind of new and they want to know, well, does it works? Mm-hmm. , is hypnosis real? Um, and I think never. In the last year, someone called people who did kind of another therapy approach, then hypnosis or asked people, Well, did it work?
Yeah. How was you? You, You noticed everything? Yeah. You didn’t sleep. Okay. Interesting. So it’s because it’s kind of something new for other people, so it’s okay. . Outstanding. Outstanding. So then as you’ve taken the experience working with clients into doing trainings, uh, what, uh, what approaches, what sort of mindset is it that you’re bringing to the training that you feel really sets it apart for you?
Well, the training I do is the, the omni training. So it’s most of the mindset from Jerry kind to bring it in the regression to cause fame. Yeah. We can fix it and we can fix it. Very, So I’m a friend of working very efficient. Mm-hmm. Yes. That the client don’t need that much sessions because I, I also had clients who were taking 30 sessions with no outcome.
Yeah. And well, I, we at only, we teach just you can fix it in the shortest time. The, the, the only time which is necessary, So I don’t like to say in one session, but most of the time it is in one session, but the session then is maybe, uh, one to two or maybe sometimes three hours. So it’s, for other people it’s three sessions.
but this is what I bring in. Just you can do it that fast and the people have the right to get the. Very fast. So there are some that, uh, and I, I tend to dance between the two schools of thought that, um, you know, whatever’s appropriate for the client is the absolute best way to go. And for this one, they come in and I’m gonna be absolutely, let’s regress to, cause let’s get in there clean things up.
And for others I may find the entirely opposite approach of, this is not the right strategy with this person. Let me use something else. Uh, how would you respond there? Because there’s a very. Polarized conversation that some would say that, Oh, you know where I’m going , I don’t even have to ask the question.
For the critics of regression, what’s, What’s your opinion on that? So I would say the guys who are. , the critics of the regression, in my opinion. And that is very polarizing. They don’t have a clue how to do it in the right way because, So it’s a discussion we always have that here in Germany it’s, Well, when you do regression, you can retraumatize the people.
Well, if you do it in the correct way. Right. Yeah. You will not, Yeah. But if you are trained. . Yeah. Then it could happen. But if you know what to do and how to do that is not an, not an issue or not the topic to retraumatize the people. So, and what I do is when someone, because I don’t like, I’m not the storyteller, not in this session, so it’s just I do regression therapy.
Yeah. As I told at the beginning, the universal therapy from Omni and Simpson Protocol, and if someone shows up with a kind of a fear or anxiety or a sexual disorder, I usually go with regression, and if it is a bigger issue like depression or PTSD or something in this direction, I start with Simpson Protocol because it’s easy.
It’s yeah, kind of smooth. Yeah. They don’t have to talk about the problem. We can just jump in and fix it. So, and then see what. What to do next if there is something more to do. But, uh, someone who’s showing up in my office will not get the uh, yeah, kind of, I don’t go there and just tell a nice story with the hope that something changes.
I know that is very hard and not everyone will agree with that, but this is my kind of view because I learned hypnosis. See this is regression therapy. And regression therapy is hypnosis. Yeah, and that’s it. So I think it depends on, How you first step in what you like more. And the other thing is good training.
Well, again, from, as someone who would back up all different schools of thought and all different approaches, I think in most cases it’s exactly what you said, that they don’t. Really understand the techniques not from a place of, you know, criticism. The, the phrase of ignorant is not necessarily a negative term.
Uh, the real issue is that we’re saying regression, but we’re really referring to like a dozen or so strategies strung together, Um mm-hmm. in that regression experience. And yes, there are. Some research things where it’s the, you know, the sit back and watch the miracle unfold, find the cause, emerge the client, Hey, here’s why you have this issue.
When really, I mean, my very oversimplified paraphrase is that the regression is about getting the client to release the emotions, but at the same time position them in the place where now they’re able to give direct suggestion hypnosis to themself. . Yeah. And the thing is, we, we also, you, when you do a reference session, you also give some direct suggestions.
Yes. That’s not, Yeah, you do it, you just do it. But before that, you help them, as you said, to release the negative emotions. So, but I, in my opinion, it’s just because, So over here in Europe, not over there in the us I don’t know many about the market in the us but we have trainers here who just. tell the people, Well, you have to be careful with regression because all that things well, and when you talk to them, you just find, okay, they never got a very good training about this.
So they are just talking what they heard from others. They never did their own experience with that stuff, So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So what are you excited about in hypnosis moving forward? Excited about hypnosis? Well, it’s just, there’s so much to be excited about it, so, uh, well, good question. , can we move on the next
Oh, the next one is working. People find you online, so we’re stuck on this one, . Okay. Okay, good. Let me, let me think a minute about it. What, what I’m excited about. Well, the thing. Actually, the most thing I’m excited about is, is just to, to help people to get into the business. Mm-hmm. , because you, So actually most of my working time is just giving trainings and uh, I think 20% of the time I actually see clients that move the little during the last one and a half years.
So, and I’m always excited. Just go and train something new for other people. So the next two days, I’m teaching Simpson Protocol over here and it’s always amazing to see when the people or the colleagues get in touch the first time with this tool and to see how, how amazed they are from just these well kind.
On the first look, it’s not that easy, but when you know how to handle it, it is easy. And when they see what outcomes they can create with just this tool. So I’m excited about that. I’m excited about teaching hypnosis. Outstanding. So where can people find online? Oh, they can find me. The easiest way is to type in h No school.
Dot de. That’s the easiest way because everything, everything else is just German. And I think most of your listeners are sitting in the us so if they want to look, who is that guy? They can find me online on hypno school, like the hypno from English and school, which is also an English word de. And this is the website where, Hypnosis training is offered.
Yeah. I also have a therapy website. You mentioned this website in one of your further podcasts about foreign language clients. Yes. . So, but this, this is the therapy side. I think I. Think that most of the people don’t get anything there because it’s in German. Although the wonders of if you’re a user of the Google Chrome browser, that one will automatically do a translation by a click of a button.
So why don’t you share that website? Yeah. See, I never did that because I, I, I’m fluent in English or mostly fluent, so I don’t have to transfer. You don’t have to transmit. No, and I can count to, I can count from one to eight, I forget nine onward at. Okay. Okay. So yeah. Then the other one is za termen.dot com, which is the therapy side, and when they type my name on YouTube, they will find me on YouTube and they are some videos in English, which have German subtitles because I did some interviews with English speaking hypnotists, like show Michael Andrews or Ms.
E Simpson or Jerry Kind. and I don’t know who else is online, so maybe we can do one in Vegas. Yeah, I’d love to. Love to. And, uh, tell you what, we’ll, we’ll put over in the show notes, uh, over at Work Smart Hypnosis with this session, uh, links to all these different, uh, websites and it links to a couple of the videos too.
Uh, but it’s been wonderful. Have an on you, having you on here. It was a pleasure.
