Session #123: Stephanie Conkle on Hypnotic Depth Discoveries

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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, Session number 123. Stephanie Conk on hypnotic depth discoveries. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, Your professional resource for hypnosis training and out. Standing Business success. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Welcome back to the program.

It’s Jason Lynette here with a fantastic conversation for you to listen to, for you to interact with, for you to learn from, and also to help you to motivate you to grow your own hypnotic success. I’ve known Stephanie now for going on a couple of years by way of interacting online and some of my.

Communities as well as the hypno thoughts, live convention. And she’s definitely someone who’s out there as a real hypnotic worker of the process. And you’re gonna hear her story in terms of, uh, being hypnotized by her father, by learning to make use of hypnosis to overcome some personal things that she dealt with, and then that mechanism of launching her own business.

So we’re gonna talk about topics ranging from. Living Social and Groupon to help you to grow your business. Stick through the conversation for some interesting points in terms of her career path involving horror films. And then more specifically, we’re gonna spend some time talking about some really cool depth discoveries she’s made in a project now called Profound Some NAB Bism.

So techniques to help you to work more effectively with clients and some really interesting insights in terms of what it takes to grow your hyn. Business for more information on growing your hypnosis business. As always, head over to hypnotic business systems.com. That is the entire digital access pass to my hypnosis business training library.

And you can get started over there for just $47. And as well, interact over at the moment at either clear life results.com or depending on when you listen to this, perhaps stephanie conk.com. Though links details, all in the show notes [email protected] though. With that, let’s jump right into this content pack session.

This is session number 123, Stephanie Conk on Hypnotic Depth Discoveries. So, uh, my very first introduction into hypnosis was, From when I was a child, my dad was actually, uh, hypnotized because he had severe insomnia. Mm-hmm. and uh, and it worked really well for him. He doesn’t even remember this, but I, I, for some reason I remember it, it’s something that I carried with me throughout my life.

And, um, at that time he was also, uh, a professional actor and he, um, well, not at that time, but he had been previously. And so he wanted to act like the hypnotist and he wanted to try to hypnotize me and my sisters mm-hmm. . Um, and so he did a little, A little hypnotic in conduction on me that he just kind of made up himself.

But it actually worked. You know, I was probably maybe 10 or, or 12 and, and I followed his commands and he thought I was acting. He thought it didn’t work. But now as I look back at it, it totally worked. , I totally believed him or would not have a beta’s commands. Mm-hmm. . So, um, . So that was my very first introduction into hypnosis.

I also. watching a PBS documentary about hypnosis around this, around that age maybe, or maybe a couple years older when I was in maybe middle school or, or high school. And, um, and, and I don’t re, I couldn’t understand what the hypnotist was saying because he was using big words like some nab bism mm-hmm.

and trans . But he, he was experimenting with people to show how hypnosis worked, just to kinda show the power. Of hypnotic suggestion and there’s this one woman who he hypnotized to believe that there was, uh, a rope hanging down from the ceiling, and she had to. Put her arm up in the rope and just have her arm hanging there.

Yeah, And it felt to me like he was talking for hours and hours and my arm was getting sore, just watching this woman’s arm. He kept checking back in with her. Are you comfortable? Yeah, I’m still comfortable. I’m fine. So that was like, Wow, that’s amazing. So I think that was the first time I was ever really wowed and amazed by hypnosis.

Yeah, I didn’t really think about it much again until college and in college we had to stay, hypnotist come to our school and I was actually away. From school that weekend. I had gone back home, but my boyfriend and my close friends had stayed on campus and they had gone to this, um, comedy stage hypnosis show, and, uh, told me all about it when I got back

And, uh, I was so amazed and blown away by what they were telling me because they were doing all these crazy things and I thought, Wow, my friends are smart. , I think, or so I thought, , I think this is. First, where so often the story is, Oh, I watched the show, but the show was so good. You got the second hand in.

Right. Exactly. Yeah. And I just, I just heard this and just started, you know, thinking in my head like, wow, there’s something, there’s something with the brain. Because if, if, if they can make my friends and my boyfriend who I knew very well do what they said they were doing, then there’s something more to this that I would really like to investigate.

Okay. Fast forward, um, , I don’t go into hypnosis, uh, or hypno. Uh, like I don’t think, Oh, I wanna be hypnotist as my career, right? I go through college and, um, I ended up getting a degree in film and video productions. Had to go at that for a while. Didn’t really, uh, work out as well as I thought it would. Uh, it was sort of during the same time that nine 11 had just happened.

There was a hiring freeze. I did work on the set of Dawson’s Creek for a little bit, but then I was unemployed. Ended up coming back to Atlanta where I’m based because there was just more job opportunities in Atlanta and I had just gotten married and so. I started working just for a corpor, just a corporation, , and I really did not, uh, believe in this company’s products, what I was selling, but I was doing really well.

I was making a lot of money. I kept getting promoted. I was the first person in the history of the company to ever get a 10% raise and promoted within the first year of working there. So I, I didn’t mind the job that I was doing. I enjoyed working. But, um, I didn’t really believe in, in, in the product or the company or my boss

And, um, I’m one of those personalities that I, I have a hard time having somebody, uh, sort of rule over me or, or tell me what to do. Cuz I kind of think, Oh, well I, I can see a hundred ways to do this better or more efficiently. And they don’t really like hearing that . So, uh, so I knew that I didn’t real, I really did not like, This job that I was in, I like the people.

The work was okay. Uh, I didn’t believe in the product. I thought we were ripping people off. And, um, that was kind of concerning me. And I, I kind of knew that I wanted to go into a profession where I could help other people. Um, so I’m not just helping myself, but I didn’t know what that was at that time.

Now, okay, so based on my salary, , uh, we got a house and a mortgage and I got pregnant . Um, as soon as the baby was born, I was like, Okay, that’s my ticket outta here. Um, so I quit my job. Um, I was kind of the major, uh, sort of the breadwinner of the family at the time. And, um, my husband was sort of temping and when being a barista , so at this time we have like no money, a mortgage.

And a new baby . Perfect time to start a business. Perfect time to start a business, right? Yeah. . And to leave my old business where that , where where I was making good money. So I thought, you know what, I’m just gonna do this Stay at home mom thing for a while. So may you know, maybe I’m not supposed to be at, be in business.

So I tried to stay at home mom thing for a while and decided that I was really depressed. Actually did kind of fall into a depression. And now thinking back on it, I, I’m pretty sure I had postpartum depression that was undiagnosed. Um, but during that time I started looking into the self-help industry.

Um, I, you know, cause I wanted to sort of figure out what was going on with my myself and why was I so unhappy. I wasn’t unhappy with the babies. I love the, I love the kids. Um, but it was just being at home, being isolated, not using my brain. Um, it was just, it just fell into the slump. But I did wanna have that work life balance.

I did want to be able to be home for my children and still, still work and be with people and use my brain. Most importantly, um, my, my own mother is very successful business woman. She’s, she’s owned her own companies. She’s the CEO of a, a technology company here in Atlanta. Um, and I’ve always admired her, but also I wanted her at home as well.

Mm-hmm. , so I wanted her to be like the other kids’ moms. So I knew I kind of wanted to be at home for my kids too, and I, I knew I needed to find that balance. So it kind, it kinda was coming to a head like, Okay, I need to work for myself. And, um, . So I started life coaching, so I was like, I need to get out of the house and I needed to work for myself.

And I, I just sort of doing that part time just to add a little bit of income. and you know, really to get outta the house. . Yeah. And, and to talk with other adults and to help them and to help myself and, and during this time, um, okay, so, so something else was going on at the same time. Um, I had met my husband in film school and he makes low budget horror movies on this side.

Awesome. and I helped produce them and he made a, yeah, he made this low budget horror movie called Zombie. It’s about a, a Satan killer Zombie Chicken and . This little thing actually made it into the International Can Film Festival into south of France, and I had developed a severe fear of flying after my daughter was born.

Um, had never been afraid of flying before. Had actually traveled all throughout Europe, had gone backpacking through Europe with good friends when I was, you know, in college that never, you know, had never been afraid of flying before. But as soon as, uh, my oldest daughter was born, I j I would just think about getting on an airplane and I would start to hyper ven.

Right. It could be like two weeks In the future, I would think about it. I would start hyperventilating. My palms would start sweating. There’s no way I’m getting on a plane. So I avoided getting on planes as much as I could up until my husband got that opportunity. Um, To have his, his film presented at the Canned film festival.

And so I knew I needed to get to that film festival mm-hmm. not only as his wife to walk the red carpet, but also as the producer of the film . So, um, so that’s when I turned to hypnosis for myself and, um, and it, I sought it for myself. And it, it worked okay. I’m gonna say, I’m not gonna say like, it, it was amazing the very first time I used it because I listened to a recording and it was enough to get me on the plane.

Now, since then, I’ve gone to, uh, you know, hypnotist in person, and now my fear of flying is completely gone. And, um, I’m, I’m a super confident flyer. So actually thanks to Scott Sandlin for that Oh, cool. And his collapsing anchors method that he showed me. Okay. Anyway, so I, so now I’m, I’m really in intrigued with hypnosis and I just start reading everything that I can about it.

The very first book that I read was, The hypnotic world of Paul McKenna. is this crazy book with him on the cover with a big hypnotic spiral in the background and he’s looking all wild in it and everything. But it was actually a pretty informative book and it really, it removed my fears around hypnosis.

Cause I did have some of those fears, um, being brought up in the. Than religious. Um, it was sort of drilled into me that hypnosis was part of the ault. Um, I could be possessed by demons, if I got into it. Uh, this is not what God wants me to do. And, and because of sort of like brainwashed as a child, I did have those fears and I knew that they were irrational.

Um, but it took reading that book to really say like, Okay. Yeah, hypnosis is fine. , right? It’s, I’m not gonna get possessed by a demonn or whatever, right? Like, it’s fine. So, um, and then, um, and then I just started adding hypnosis into my life coaching business. And then pretty soon, um, it, it ceased to become a life coaching business and became solely, uh, hypnotherapy.

outstanding. Yeah. So then along that way, I mean, beginning as that life coach, um, I’m curious to ask some questions around that. First of all, what was, what was the approach? And, and the modalities that you were using then before you added in the hypnosis. So it, it really was all about the other person.

Mm-hmm. and not, um, putting in my own opinions or, um, what I think that the client should do. It was really a lot about listening to what they were telling me and then, and then using the way I would use my words, sort of directing it back at them. Mm-hmm. so that, Um, you know, take, take what they already know, their own knowledge and, um, it’s kind of hard to explain, but, um, but basically using their own words back on them.

Yeah. So I was sort of doing this, you know, almost like, uh, um, conversational hypnosis anyway is sort of what life coaching is. So I didn’t even realize I was doing that at first, but, Later on I kind of realized, Oh, okay, so I’m just sort of doing like this conversational approach, hypnosis approach with them.

Um, anyways, so, but it’s really about them using their own internal resources to, um, better themselves. Mm-hmm. , they don’t, And, and, and it’s almost as if you’re tricking them into that, but are Right. Or they feel like it’s coming from you, but it’s really coming from themselves. It’s a lot of listening.

Right, right. And kind of being that sounding board to let someone sort something out for themselves at times, which is Yeah. Still absolutely viable. And the accountability partner as well. Yeah, absolutely. So then making that transition as things begin to pick up with the hypnosis, uh, what are some of the things you were doing to, uh, to make the business begin to grow?

So, , it was hard in the beginning. It was really, really hard. Uh, so one of the things that I did that actually got people in, but I didn’t really, um, make a lot of money for it from, it was. A living social. Mm-hmm. was a living social deal. And so, um, I, I’m actually grateful for it because it was like I made just enough money to keep the overhead paid to keep my office, but I wasn’t making enough to pay myself a salary.

Um, but what that did for me was that it gave me a ton of people to work with and um, you know, and kind of practice on and, um, . Yeah. I hate to say it that way cuz it’s like, oh, these are clients. Um, . No, it’s one of those parts around, you know, there’s some that are so anti the idea of doing the group on the living social.

You know, still to this day in terms of getting in front of a lot of people and embracing the knowledge that some of them might not be the ideal client becomes that real proving ground of, Okay, let me get in there. Let me figure this thing. Absolutely. And what I learned from that, so, so when I had clients before them, um, before this living social deal, um, I had time to investigate, um, their background or, or whatever ever it was that they wanted to see me for and Okay.

And I had time to read through hypnosis books or protocols or, you know, and try to just come up with the best, you know, formula for them. Um, To really personalize it. Um, and that took a lot of time and effort and a lot of times I didn’t end up using it, that in that way anyway, they had outlined it to begin with.

Um, but, but once I got all of these bodies in and I just had to see them one after the other, right. Um, I didn’t have time to do all this investigation work, right? So, . So I really had to learn how to be present, like go back to my life coaching days, be present and listen to what the client is really saying and work with that.

And then I had to really start figuring out what is their subconscious telling me, what are they telling me at that level below awareness. Um, and it, it just helped me to stay in the moment and be present and my hypnosis, uh, just became so much better as a result of that. Yeah. So the opportunity just to get in and really do a lot of work and, uh, I love the aspect of not having time to stop and think about it too.

Yeah. And how to trust my own subconscious mind to come up with, um, the, the, the particular protocol to use or the right words to say in the right way at the exact right timing that the client needed, Right? Mm-hmm. . So then after the living social, uh, what else, what else in terms of getting the business to really begin to.

So I really think, and then with the living social two, I was getting a lot of testimonials, right? And then I was getting a lot of word of mouth business, so I think it was a combination of the word of mouth and then my website. Um, so most of my clients find me online. My website, got my website really SEOed really well.

Mm-hmm. , as a matter of fact, it’s kind of going through a transition right now. I’m building in a brand new website. Um, but I think it was just the combination of of just being good. Just being good, Yeah. At what you do and then other people will come to you, you know? Um, I just, just, um, a couple of days ago had a client who came to me because he met someone on a golf.

You know who, who, who referred me to him and he didn’t even know who this guy was. He just met him on the golf course for the first time. He couldn’t even tell me his name, . Cause it’s like, Oh, I would really like to send him a thank you note. But, you know, I don’t know who this guy was, but I think that’s pretty cool that, um, that it, it’s gotten to that level now and it’s just taken some time to get there.

But yeah. Um, But, but, but it got there, so I’m happy about that. So a question I love to ask is, someone is coming into your office and what is that user experience? What is it that’s unique about your approach in working with them? Would you say? About my approach as opposed to like another hypnotherapist or from whatever perspective.

That question makes sense to you, . Okay. Well, really getting into rapport with them. I mean, I can’t say enough about that and about the pre-talk because I think if you do an excellent pre-talk, They’re hypnotized if you give them a really good pre-talk. Yeah. And the rest of it is just pageantry, right?

Mm-hmm. . Um, it can be, or, or it’s just reinforcing what you said in the pre-talk. So I think it’s really, um, I make them feel comfortable. I, I remove their fears and I set their expectations. , Um, which is what everybody should be doing. . Yes. So, um, but yeah, it’s just really getting on that personal level. I’d let them talk about themselves.

Um, I know that there’s some, some hypnotists don’t want to hear all of their background information. Um, but yeah, sometimes they just have to, they, they, they feel like they need to talk to you. They feel like. You know, even though you’re not a traditional therapist in that sense, like a talk therapist, um, they wanna talk and I let them, and I’ll listen to them and I’ll, and I’ll hear what they’re saying.

Uh, and then more importantly, then even hearing what they’re saying, I’m, I’m looking for, you know, all the deeper. Uh, meaning of what they’re saying or, um, what phrases they’re using, right? What kind of modality I think they are, um, depending on what sort of phrases they use, I’m looking at their body language, their eye movement, all of that kind of stuff.

So I’m getting a lot of information from that pre-talk and a lot of times, um, a reactions will happen naturally in the pre-talk, and that’s the perfect time just to jump right in and start doing the hypnotic work. Right. . Yeah, absolutely. What I, what I love about that is that it’s that mindset of working with intention rather than by accident.

That some would have the expectation that we’re doing these things in terms of the conversation, the interaction around it, just to gather the information. But it’s so much more that deeper level of, you know, here are the words, here’s their representational systems, here are things we can use inside of that process.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So what I wanted to reach out to you to chat with you about is, I’m not sure exactly the phrasing, whether it’s the invention or the discovery, or somewhere in between , uh, but this project involving profound some nab bism. Yes. Like, I’m very excited about this. Um, yeah. Discovery, I guess not, not really invention because it’s always been there, but it, it, it is a discovery.

Um, I knew that profound sunnism exist. And some of the, the, the hypnosis books that I had read from, you know, the dead hypnotist from way back when I knew that they were able to talk directly to the subconscious mind and the subconscious would talk back to the hypnotist using the client’s voice. Um, and that was a level that I was trying to get to for.

And I, and there was really no, you don’t, there’s no school where you can learn this, how to do this, or at least not that I know of. Maybe there is, but I don’t know where, I don’t know who’s teaching it. Mm-hmm. . And so I spent about two years trying to figure this process out how to do this. Um, so now, um, with, with.

Q H H T with Dolores Cannon. She does, uh, past life regression or she did, um, she’s passed since, but she did pass life regression where, um, through this past life regression, she was able to communicate with the, uh, subconscious and have the subconscious talk back to her. But she would take people through past.

She would take them through their death experience where they would revivify the death experience and then she could talk to the subconscious. And I thought, you know what? There’s, there’s gotta be a better way of doing this . And plus, I live in Georgia. Um, most of my clients are not coming to me for past life regression, so I would like to be able to figure out how, uh, I.

Or how I can talk to the subconscious without having to, um, take them through past lives and revivify death scenes and all of that kind of stuff. So I just started experimenting and, um, And, and, you know, um, there, there had been times in the past where I knew that I was talking to the pure, subconscious mind.

I knew it was talking back to me, but I didn’t know how I got there. Yeah, it was just sort of happened on accident. Um, sometimes it happened through parts therapy. Um, and other times, you know, it just happened because the, the client just spontaneously started talking to me. But, but I knew that there had to be some kind of method or protocol that I guess you could say that I did invent the protocol, if you wanna say it that way.

Um, so I figured it out and plus I can rephrase that. Perhaps you found, you found it was happening than you unpacked a way to make it happen on purpose. That’s a much better description,

Yeah. And so what, what I love about this, uh, about profound some, some manism, is that. Not only do you get the client into a very, very deep state of trance, you’re not getting them into the esda state. Um, so they can move around, they can talk, uh, you know, they, they don’t have full body catay. Mm-hmm.

they’re actually talking to you and sometimes they’re talking in their own voice. And sometimes the voice sounds a little different. It’s different. For everybody, just like anything. But what I love, the beauty of this is that you don’t have to use idiomotor responses. Um, you don’t have to play 20 questions Yeah.

With the client and hope that you’re, you’re getting the right answers. The subconscious is actually talking back to you. Um, you know for sure that it is the subconscious talking to you. There’s definite ways that you can tell and, uh, in, in pretty, in pretty cool ways. and then you’re getting more information.

Information that you would would never have gotten just from using the The IMRs. Yeah. Yeah. So then someone going through that experience, what are some of the stories that have, that have come out of using this? So when you get the client into profound sunnism, um, nine of 10 times, they’re actually gonna wake up with amnesia.

Mm-hmm. , I’m not gonna give them the, i I don’t give them the commands for amnesia. It’s just a natural phenomenon that occur, occurs when they go so deeply. Um, so a lot of times they don’t remember it, but they’re, um, but they’re, but I do record it. I record every session just in. Um, in, in case they wanna have a conscious understanding, uh, of, of, of what went on during the session.

But, um, but they, but they wake up feeling great. Um, it’s actually pretty amazing because some really cool things happen in profound sometimes. Eism that just don’t happen in the lighter stages of trance, Like spontaneous healings for one thing. Yeah. Um, that’s the most, uh, I think that’s the most awesome thing to me.

Well, let’s, let’s chat about that because that’s a, that’s a theme that I’m, I’m fascinated by myself that yes, we can do work and then here’s this series of techniques to facilitate this change. And yet here are these other moments. We’re just simply achieving the state is getting the work. . Mm-hmm. . Yeah.

Is there a story that stands out in terms of that, that type of thing happen? And when I say spontaneous healing, I’m asking the subconscious to actually scan the client’s body mm-hmm. , and show me any areas that needs to be, uh, healed, restored, or repaired. And it will look at, and when I’m talking to the subconscious, it’s like I’m talking to.

Separate person. And, and actually when, uh, when I walk into the room, I even tell the client, um, and I know I’ve heard this from somebody else, I can’t remember. I’d like to, to give credit where credit is due, but there’s four people in the room. It’s not two people, myself and my subconscious and the client, and they’re subconscious.

And I, and I treat it that way and I treat it like it’s, there’s four separate entities in the room. Um, so when I’m talking to the subc, It’s almost as if I’m talking to a separate entity outside of a client, even though it is a part of the client. But, um, the subconscious will talk about the client in third person.

That’s part of, of how you know that you, you are actually talking purely to the subconscious because, um, they will use the third person and not the first person point of view. So, So I’ll say, you know, um, could you please do, uh, a scan of Jason and just sh um, show me any area or just come to any, the first area that you come to that needs, uh, healing or restoration or repair.

Could you please just let me know when you’ve come to that and then it will let me know? Okay. Yes, I’m there. Okay. Thank you. And I always, always send lots of things. Okay. What do you see? And then it’ll tell me what it sees. Um, uh, you know, Jason’s um, Arteries are clogged and um, and or whatever. Okay. There, this or this lady has a lump in her breast, her left breast, and it’s this big and it looks like this.

Okay, great. Well thank you for finding that. Um, would you mind going ahead and just taking that, just healing that or taking that out of. . Um, Sure. You know, it’ll say Yes, , . It’ll say sometimes, sometimes I’ll ask it, it’ll say, Well, actually, let me back up. Cause I always ask, um, I, Is this illness okay? Or whatever it is, Is this illness serving a purpose to the client?

And it’s usually no. Mm-hmm. . And if it’s not serving a purpose, great. Then can we remove it? And then it’ll say, yes. Okay, great. It. Am I able to talk to you as you’re working on the client? And it’ll say yes. And I’ll say, Okay, great, thank you. Well go ahead and, and do the work on the client and just let me know when it’s been done.

And um, so you just sit there and you wait, or you can say, Hey, what are you doing to heal this client, ? Um, and it’ll tell you what it’s doing. It’ll give you all kinds of metaphor. A lot of times it’ll use the metaphor of the white healing light. Oh, I’m just aiming the white healing light, um, at this lump.

And it’s breaking it up and, um, and eviscerating it. It’s like, okay, great. Well thank you . So, you know, I’m always sending it thanks and gratitude and, um, so I’ve had had some pretty amazing, amazing things like that happen in the. Um, and then they, uh, have them go to the doctor, get it checked out, make sure that, that, that this, that you did get this healing.

Um, and they don’t remember this part of it at all, so they have to go back and listen mm-hmm. to the tape. But, um, it’s pretty amazing stuff. Yeah. So let’s rewind for a moment to, uh, just that state of how, how would you delineate the difference between, uh, if we want to label it, uh, standard every day sub aism and then profound sub neul.

Yeah, , that’s always the question, right? how, how deep are they? And yeah, I do use the metaphor depth and I know that some people have a problem with that. And I think Mel Nason called it breadth of trance and not depth of trance. And it’s really just testing. It’s just deepening. Mm-hmm. . It’s a lot of deepening and a lot of testing.

Deepen and test it. Yeah, deepen and test it. Standard testing that most of us would be familiar with. It’s the standard testing, it’s the standard testing. Um, and even getting them into, Hypnotic trans, uh, you know, you just kind of start off with, uh, I’m not gonna give away all my secrets cuz I would like for you to take the class, but you do start off in the traditional way.

Um, but then there’s some very specific, um, steps with the protocol to get them into the deeper levels of some aism. And it really is testing. And then when you, when you hear the, the voice of the subconscious, you will know that it is the subconscious and. Just like the client kind of making it up. And it’s, and it’s a little bit different than parts therapy too, because I kind of, and I love parts therapy and I wanna give a shout out to Roy Hunter and I think that everybody should take his parts therapy class cuz that’s, it’s very helpful, um, protocol to have in your toolbox.

But when I’m working with parts, I kind of feel like the client is still, uh, consciously aware of the part when you’re working with the pure Subc. The client is completely out of the way, Um, sometimes asleep and sometimes daydreaming. And I’ll just ask the subconscious, Is the client, uh, asleep, daydreaming, or completely out of the way?

And it’ll tell me, It’ll usually say, Oh, he’s dreaming or he’s awake. But he’s, he’s in a chair on the other side of the. Or whatever. What intrigues me about that is that, uh, and, and training a class, you know, will introduce the, the depth scale and talk about the different models and then usually come back to the errands depth scale, just cuz it tends to be one of the most workable ones.

Mm-hmm. and even get into the language of Yeah. But inside of this level, you know, there’s even decimal points, there’s segments inside of it. We had in that demo more of an aphasic style amnesia. We had more of an analgesic. Um, anesthesia or we were dipping our toes into slate hairs. Yeah. We were dipping our toes into negative hallucination.

Yet then we moved back to positive and aiming for those, uh, those deeper states. But yeah, you’re right in terms of not just the, uh, Roy Hunter, Charles TE’s model of parts, but any style of work where there is some form of interaction. You know, if we even want to talk about age regression, Yes. In one school of thought, getting to full blown revivification as if you’re there yet, let’s be honest, we can still be effective with a quote remembering style regression.

Absolutely, because then it, my, my core of it is it’s getting the client to the place where they’re doing the work for themselves. Absolutely. But to have the better states, to have the deeper states, always, always a bonus, Always a bus. And, and I, and I think we can do fantastic work in the light states of trance.

And we can do fantastic work. We can do fantastic work conversationally, right conversationally with nlp. Um, we can do really great work. I just like going to those deep levels to make sure that. We really got everything. Like I like it as a confirmation. Cause a lot of times I’ll still work in the lidar state of trance for the majority of the change work, but then I’ll just take them into profound nem just so I can get the confirmation from the subconscious that we did all the work that we need, we needed to do.

Or if there’s something that was missing, the subconscious will tell you what’s missing. ? Mm-hmm. , what else needs to be done? So it’s kind of making me not have to actually work so hard, not. To do a lot of guesswork anymore. I mean, that really, it really takes all of the guesswork out of it for me, which is really nice.

So are there any stories of other practitioners now making use of this and uh, having some interesting results? Yeah, yeah, definitely. There is. Um, oh, Dan, what’s your last name? Dan Perez. Thank you, Dan Perez, . Dan Perez, former guest in the program as well. ? Yes. Hi. Hi, Dan. Forgive me, um, for forgetting your last name.

Dars had a moment. Um, yes, Dan Perez, who, who, who’s awesome and amazing, a wonderful hypnotherapist himself, and he has been making a. Fantastic use of it. He was really my first student who really got in there and jumped in with both feet and just went for it. And he’s been having really fantastic results with it.

Outstanding. And, uh, so where is it that people can learn more about Profound? So, Nab Bism. Okay, so you can learn more about it. At my, uh, I have a Facebook group. It’s called Profound Some Manism and Beyond. Now, um, you do have to be, Professional hypnotherapist to join the group because I, I want, I don’t want just kind of like anybody being able to use this, I want you to have had some experience being a hypnotherapist, um, before you use this protocol just because.

Um, when you, when you start working with the deepest levels of trance, very strange things can happen in that state. And I want you to already know I already had those skills to know how to handle anything that could come up. So that’s why, um, you know, only qualified, um, hypnotherapy, but also allows the, it also allows the conversations to be more on point as opposed to the.

They opened their eyes during the induction. What do I do? Well, that’s kind of more, that should have been covered in your basic plan. . Absolutely. Right? Yeah. Cause this is is definitely more business project I was doing where we were talking about optimizing your website and the calls coming in where yeah, I’ve got someone coming for stuttering.

It’s like, that’s not where we’re teaching there. You’re in the wrong store in there. Right. . Exactly so you can find out more information there. You could go to my website, which currently it’s clear life results.com. As of today. Uh, within the next I’m hope before hypno thoughts. I’m hoping that my new website, which will be stephanie concord.com, will be live and active and ready to go.

So, so you could try either one of those or just that Facebook group. And speaking of which we are, uh, releasing, uh, the first week of August, you’ve got a couple of presentations at Hypno Thoughts, right? I do, I do. Which whether you can attend their live, All the recordings are also made available for purchase too.

So if you’re listening to this, March, 2019. This is still current . Yes. Yes. So, uh, I’m doing a class with Kaz Riley. Um, we’re doing a double induction class, um, which I think will be really awesome. So please come out for that if you can. And then, um, and I don’t, I don’t, I don’t know what date or time you’ll just have to look at that app to figure out.

And then I’m also doing a class on, um, pre. As well. And the pre-talk one is bringing a little bit of technology into the pre-talk, right? It is. It’s using, uh, a PowerPoint presentation with your pre-talk, which is brilliant for the days when you’re just kind of feeling tired yourself and you wanna make sure that you hit all of the point.

Right. Not forget, because if you, if you have a weak pre-talk, it’s, it’s just gonna make your hypnosis so much harder. Right? Um, but if you have a strong pre-talk, then, then that really sets you up for a good session. So by, uh, making your p your pre-talk into a PowerPoint, it just keeps you on point. Plus it gives the clients that visual representation.

Plus I’ve got, Subliminal less, uh, messaging, uh, all throughout mine as well, . So it just kind of helps get them into the right state before I start the formal induction on them. Yeah. So what would you say if you had to answer this question of what’s missing for most hypnotist pre-talk? . I don’t really know what most hypnotism do with their preto, but it’s probably just really just not just taking the time to set it up, like set it up, right.

Mm-hmm. , um, you know, you wanna stick the, stack the deck in your favor. So the, the right, the first principles of, of hypnosis is to remove fear and set expectations. Okay. So that’s what I’m doing in my pre-talk, the whole pre-talk. I’m removing fear, I’m setting expectations and I’m even fractionating them during this time.

So I’m just kind of gently getting them into the state that I want them to be. So that at the end, plus I’m dimming the lights . Yes. Right. So they can kind of see the presentation. But so by the end of the presentation, Um, I’ve already got them. I’ve already got them in a good, um, level of trance before I even start my, you know, quote unquote formal hypnosis on them.

Well, I mean, that kind of goes back to our conversation about the intake, the interview process, that not to look at it as just a quote, information gathering phase that. You know, the flaw of some NLP thinking would be, Oh, I’m strictly in the, in the meta model right now, gathering information, and then, then later I’m gonna have them close their eyes and then we’re gonna go melting on them.

But we are working the entire time, We are always moving towards that change process. Absolutely. So, so what else is, uh, is going on? What’s the, what’s the next step? . Uh, so the next step, I’m just getting into some more, um, online marketing mm-hmm. and developing products. Right now I’m working with Teleman Knutson Nice.

And others, . Um, so it’s just, um, kind of getting more of my work out there more. And I’m also, um, Working with Michael Watson as well. I just took a class of his and he teaching you how to be an online hypnotist so you can do more work from home. Um, and you can see more people throughout the world really, if you can really get yourself set up.

Or get your practice set up for, for an online type of business. So I’d like to do more of that. Um, I’ll still have my office of course, but I would like to be able to expand my business and reach more people. Okay. So Lynette here once again, and as always, thank you so much for interacting with this program.

Thank you for sharing it online, Leav. Feedback over on iTunes. And once again, thank you Stephanie for joining me on the program. Head over to her website, clear life results.com or stephanie conk.com to get all the details about her Atlanta based practice, uh, or at least Georgia area practice, as well as profound some NAB Bism.

And once again, head over to hyp. Business systems.com. That is the entire digital all access pass to my hypnosis business training library. It’s not just showing you what to do, it’s also giving you what to do because inside of hypnotic business systems, I also give you a done for you marketing campaign that you can plug directly into your own website with my permission and start using as a mechanism to help you to get more.

Grow your business and make it rain as we all like to say. That’s hypnotic business systems.com. It’s Jason Lynette here signing off. I look forward to hanging out with you soon. See you next time. Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis podcast and work smart hypnosis.com.