Podcast Session #292 – 3 Strategies for Online Sessions


The COVID-19 pandemic has forced millions of business owners to rethink their strategies and pivot their standard ways of conducting business. The same is true for the hypnosis community. How do we, as hypnosis professionals, continue to serve our clients, provide them with optimal service, and support them through their journey of positive change? Many have decided to pivot to offer online hypnosis sessions, but struggle to shift their in-person techniques to accommodate an online setting.

In today’s episode, I share several strategies you can use for your online hypnosis sessions. I discuss how to adjust the strategies you would normally use in in-person sessions, like setting client expectations,
and how they can help your clients achieve the results they desire. I explain why it’s important to make the online hypnosis session as effortless and easy as possible for your clients. I also share how to create the classic induction moment for your clients while working virtually and highlight why I choose to turn the video feed off once an online session has begun.

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“ Whoever is the most flexible in the communication… drives the communication.”- Jason Linett

  • The power of using the classic ‘That’s right’ application in your hypnosis sessions and how it serves as a gratification filter as well as a ‘deepening factor’
  • The importance of understanding your – and your clients’
  • Setting client expectations and the importance of giving your clients easy instructions to follow for online hypnosis sessions
  • Creating the classic moment of inductions in an online hypnosis session
  • Implementing the ideomotor setup into your online sessions
  • Why I turn off the video feed with a client once their online session has begun

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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number two hundred and ninety two three strategies for online sessions. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business success. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Hey, it’s Jason Lynette, and before I actually get into this week’s content, I should probably.

Frame something that I’m going to be talking about quite a bit here. It’s a concept that is a major component inside of my online training hypnotic workers. It’s a major component of my certification programs, and I don’t believe we’ve ever actually called it out specifically on this program. And let me set this stage for this, that in the Hypnobirthing program, popularized by Marie Mongan, she talked about active management of labor.

Childbirth, which is exactly the concept you expected me talking me to be talking about in this week’s episode, . So active management of labor, which was somehow medical code for, we’re going to find a way to interact with the mother or perhaps annoy every 15 to 20 minutes. Come in, check a temperature, come in, stand up, walk around, come in, check a measurement.

You get the. So this concern about can people fall asleep while they’re in hypnosis? Well, given the style that I teach, given the style that I use with my clients, whether it’s in person or even online, as the theme is this week, the, the catch phrase in my head is, Well, good luck actually falling asleep because it’s now active management.

Of hypnosis. So this is where I make use of a very strong hypnotic phenomenon based approach to the hypnotic change work. And it’s not just for the sake of using the phenomenon for some sort of hypno, stunt, or magical change. It’s instead how we can use that process now to better apply over to the hyper suggestibility of the change process.

So take note of that. Moments like the eye lock. The arm lock, something phenomenal happen. I make use of glove anesthesia for emotional release, which is a very interesting application. You know, it’s where there’s something magical happening, which is ratifying the hypnotic state. Era eradicating the ga, the game of, well, I felt relaxed.

I don’t know if I was hypnotized, but really again, getting into the specifics of how we can then apply that over to the actual change process. So I bring that up here because the strategies I’m about to mention may seem a little out of nowhere if you’re not someone who typically interact. With your clients during the session, which if you’re not, I think you absolutely should because it’s, again, this is gonna sound like one of the more esoteric things I can say.

You’ve maybe been in a session before where it seemed as if the client was just kind of passively going through the motions of the work to which these solution to that is to bring your client back into the change process. So inside of this week’s session, I’m gonna be talking about three specific strategies.

Though, if you’ve been around my teaching style before, we’ll probably end up with five, six or seven by the time that we’re done. But getting into specific strategies, you can now better layer into your hypnotic sessions online, which of course will easily apply over to in person sessions as well. So for more like this, you can check out hypnotic workers.com.

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Check that out. Work smart hypnosis.com/power. That’s the hypnotic phenomenon power pack. And with that, let’s jump directly in. Here we go, episode number 292. Three strategies for online sessions. So as a quick side note, a thank you to the community over at Mike Mandel’s Facebook group, because this is where somebody posted a question about doing sessions online, which I was in session with a bunch of clients that day, and by the time it wrapped up, I think maybe 12 people had referenced.

Which is actually what inspired a shorter form version of video presentation of this content. I wanted to hop on the podcast this week and give it to everybody. This way we can share the content all around. So let me get to this thing first and okay. Yeah, like I said, three strategies will probably end up with five, six, or seven.

So a principle of mine, and this is something that has to do with hypnosis, but it has to do more with human nature. This is the power of the classic. That’s right. Application and hypnosis that for anything somebody is doing that they haven’t yet done before. The natural intention is to be screening in your head going, Am I doing this right?

Someone’s learning an exercise, someone’s learning a dance move. Somebody is driving a rental car. Somebody is now suddenly apparent. We’re talking a big category here. Somebody is now doing something for the first time that they’ve never done. And the natural intention is to be checking in and going, Am I doing this right?

So for those with any level of hypnosis training, the power of whenever the client does something verifiable, they adjust, they smile, they scratch, they respond to a suggestion. The utterance of the phrase That’s right. Serves as an incredible ratification filter as well as yes, indeed a. Deepening factor or a moment where you can see the client has set some hit, some sort of emotional breakthrough or epiphany.

This is where now, again, using the phrase that’s right, ratifies, that something has happened. So this is where, let me give you my official opinion, and I’d say this openly to clients, and I know some of my clients listen to this program. There’s no secrets here. It’s the fact that the moment I give somebody very specialized instructions, That you have to do it.

This one specific way gives the mind an out to go. That’s why it didn’t work for me. Gives us a bit of a scapegoat in the process, so I firmly believe the session would be better. Again, assuming we’re working online. If you are wearing high quality noise cancellation headphones, you’re in a room all by yourself with no one interrupting you.

The room is an ideal room. Temperature. Temperature, which again, my joke is always, as long as you’re inside, it’s always room tempera. Think about that for a moment. So it’s where, again, the use of maybe headphones would be ideal. That being said, the moment I have given you a filter as to something you need to have, but then maybe don’t have it now, the mind goes into the spiral of going, It’s probably not gonna work for me because I don’t have that thing.

So I would rather you listen to me on speaker. On your phone then and be okay with that as it really is to be fair, to be in that environment rather than go, Oh, I don’t have those types of headphones. That’s going to be a challenge. So what I’m getting at here is I give my online sessions as much as I am captain onboarding right now in the shape of my business, the way that my clients watch a webinar before they even can schedule with me, before we even talk to each other before we even book.

There’s a number of checkpoints in the process to check for motivat. As well as to be, I’ll call it wor, working with the ideal clients that I’m the most excited to work with, that I know I absolutely can help. So, as much as I am captain onboarding in the shape of Virginia hypnosis these days, I’m surprisingly not giving a ton of instructions.

In advance of the online session. Here’s a couple of reasons why. It would be great if their webcam were tilted down so I could see the tops of their hands, maybe on the arms of the chair. But then again, if you are on a laptop, that’s gonna be really easy because the laptop can pivot the angle up and down really easily.

If you’ve got an external Logitech webcam like I’ve got, which are massively in demand in 2020, so good luck getting price gouged on eBay or Amazon for those. They’re worth it. Get one. I used to see nine 20. I think it’s either a C 9, 22 or 23 is the new model. They’re Logitech. You’re in good hands. Shop on Amazon, look for five star reviews and you’re gonna be all right.

They’re constantly upgrading models. So again, people ask me what video camera I use, they don’t make it anymore cuz I got it three or four years ago. So again, if they’re on an external webcam, some of those have a feature that they can pivot. But then again, a lot of people are doing online sessions. On their phone on a tablet device, which is maybe in a situation where if they tilt it, it’s going to fall over.

So again, I did produce a video of, here is the ideal camera angle, and as soon as I sent it to people, they were in a panic going, If I tilt my iPad that direction, it’s going to fall over. So just in sort of the setup here, I am giving surprisingly very few instructions because. Whatever situation you give me, it’s my job as the hypnotist.

As the practitioner to make that work. Let me throw out a quick exception here though, which would be that when I’m recording the podcast, you know, that is a different conversation. That is something that’s going out with the goal of broadcast quality and this program works. Smart Hypnosis typically is either recorded solo, With the software Adobe Audition, or it’s recorded as an interview with a very specific piece of software that’s, I’ll call it out, not made for online sessions, so don’t even consider it for that, but it’s called Squad Cast, which the cool thing about that is it records local audio on both sides.

The new program launching later in October. Hypnotic Language Hacks, which is geared towards the business community. That’s going to be a video podcast, which is then gonna be pulling out the audio for the podcast streaming, but then also available on YouTube and other platforms as well. You know that we’re gonna be recording probably on Zoom.

So what I’m getting at is understand your environment. So because I’m not looking for broadcast quality in a one to one client session, you know I don’t give a lot of instructions. If you were a guest on a podcast though, and you told me you didn’t have a USB microphone, I would be sending you a link on Amazon.

Hey, this is your opportunity to be showcased and to, uh, be, you know, heard by thousands of people around the world. What is it now we’re recommending either the Blue Yeti or the Audio Technica ATR 2100 usb, if that’s still the model, or again, they might have upgraded it because again, different environment.

I’m not doing that with my clients because only one of us needs to have quality sound if I happen to be recording it. So this is a bit of a bonus in terms of what I was gonna talk about here, because it’s not really a strategy, it’s the lack of a strategy. Whatever environment you give me, Whoever’s the most flexible in their communication drives the communication.

That’s why I don’t give a lot of instructions there, because any environment, I’m gonna make it work. Let’s get now into the specific strategies. Here’s the overriding principle, though, As I heard, I believe Jess Marion talk about for the first time, and I think this was in her book about the swish pattern, describing the technique is doing the technique.

So by giving you a bit of instruction in a bit of an indirect way, it’s allowing me. To give very pointed instructions for later. So, you know what? Before we begin this process today, make sure you can kind of scoot a little bit further back from that table. That way, if I ever have you point your arm out directly in front of you with a closed fist when you’re lifting up the hand, you’re not gonna bang it on the table.

Sound good? Okay, great. Which by giving that instruction their strategy, number one, as simple as that was by giving that instruction what’s happened now? Is the benefit that I’ve already pre reframed. At some point they may be putting their arm out in front of them. Again, active management of hypnosis. I can now give that instruction with even less exposition.

Just go ahead and squeeze your hand into a fist and put it directly out in front of you. As I mentioned before, is all I have to say, rather than, you know, I ask for the instruction and now there are sticking straight. Went, No, I really want it pointed straight out in front of them, parallel with the floor beneath them.

So I’ve positioned them in such a way that now we’re ready. For that moment later in the session, if I were to do a hypnotic phenomenon of an arm lock. But again, the benefit is I’ve now set myself up for using even less words. So make sure you’re a good distance from that table, from that desk, from the whatever it is.

That way, if I ever were to ask you to stick it out in front of you like this, they can see me. Ooh, there’s a preview. They can see me. And that’s a hint in terms of exactly what I’m asking for. Do they have to be sitting upright? No. I have seen so many headboards in 2020. Just let that statement sink in for a moment.

so many clients doing sessions in their, uh, bedrooms and, uh oh. This popped up in a training this past. Well, how do you do the session of the clients holding their hand, holding the phone in their hand? Well, the answer is I let them, and then eventually I go, Hey, go ahead and just kind of lean that up against something so at least I can see your face during the session as easy as that.

And I’ve yet to have someone who could not comply with that, whether it was a glass of water by the nightstand, whether it was a lamp, whether it was something else, or even one. Here’s the other pillows. They bunch them up, they put the phone on that, and I could at least see their face. If I can see your face in the session, I’m good to go.

So somehow give an instruction without giving the instruction. That’s the good distance from the table strategy. If we wanna. Brand that with a name and trade market. Three of you laughed at that statement. So this gets us to a classic moment, which I’ve referenced here before. And this was the crux of the question.

And the Mike Mandel group, which is where I did the video, which is then was shared over there, but now on the podcast, and here’s our loop. So the floppy arm drop in a Dave Alman induction, which take note, even if you don’t do a Dave Alman induction, this is a really cool hypnotic deepener. Typically it would be, I would reach over, remember?

Physical contact reaching over, and as I pick up this arm, let that thing just dangle there, like a soaking wet dish rag. And as it falls, just let it plop right back into your lap. Let that take you even deeper. That’s the classic strategy in our age of physical distancing and a resurgence and a renaissance of online sessions.

We’re not doing it that way. However, what could I. Well, first of all, before the El Elements can call me. Hey Cheryl. Hey Larry. Enjoy the puppy in kitten. So this is a situation where, remember, in a day ment induction, that moment is not about a floppy arm drop. That moment is about arm catay, which is either a complete and total locking of the muscles or a complete and total relaxation of the muscles.

So that floppy arm drop is actually about large muscle catay. You could change it out to. Other ar, large muscle catay, send all that relaxation down to your feet and notice now, the more you try to lift those feet, they just become even more relaxed. Try to lift them. They just lay there, try to pick ’em up, they relax even more.

That’s also large muscle catay. We could instead go to the other end of the spectrum with epilepsy and do a stiff and rigid. That works too. However, I want to use that later for something else. So I’m still doing the floppy arm. Hey, before we get started, you can still see me right and I can at least see your shoulder, so that’s enough for this Let’s your right hand just kind of lift up off your leg, like two or three inches, just a couple of inches.

And now just let it really plop down like a wet dish rag. Good. If you can do that, you can handle everything we’re about to do today. Sound good? Awesome. And there’s my setup. I’ve done that in advance of the session. So now again, I don’t have to give it all the preamble and all the setup in advance and that way now I’m set up for the deep.

And again, it’s just a few inches off the lap. If they ever do something incorrectly here, it’s that they lift it several feet and it’s like, No, no, no. Just a few inches off your leg or the side of the bed. Just lift it up and just let it plop down like a sack of potatoes. Change the metaphor for what you want.

Let it just plop down. Good. And this is where I lean in and I smile and say, If you can do that, you can handle everything we’re about to do today. It’s a playful moment, but now we’re set up for the deep. So later on, I’m in session in a transitional moment, and I want to use a deepening strategy. Let the hand lift up, as we did before.

Just let it plop back down. Now that’s right. Noticing how that takes you even deeper. Remember how I talked at length about how I may not be able to see their entire body? I can at least see their face. Usually I can tell from the movement of their face, or at least a shoulder that they’re doing this and we’re good.

By the way, take the same exact strategy. And rapidly. Here’s strategy number three, which would be the idio motor setup such as this. If I’m using a head nod, if I’m using a finger raise, go ahead, take a finger, lift it on up, and just go ahead and lower it on down. Good. If you can do that, you can handle everything we’re about to do in the session today.

Sound good, , And by doing so again, We set up that awareness, we set up that ability where now it becomes that experience where you’re easily able to go into that situation with, again, less instructional exposition, and by doing so, make it even easier to then streamline the process, active management of hypnosis, keep the client engaged and be ready for whatever happens.

So really take these three strateg. And run it by a little bit of a litmus test. Inside of all the work that you do, are there places where maybe there’s a bit of a stalling point in your online sessions, or maybe has this been one of those concerns as to why you haven’t yet jumped into online sessions, which, if you look at all of the work Smartt Hypnosis podcast episodes from 260 up to 270 and many more beyond that, all of the sessions during that period, we went out twice a.

During that timeframe, giving strategies for online sessions, interviewing top professionals in our industry who a lot of their work was already online, and were kind of ready for this big pivot. So again, check out if you go to work smart hypnosis.com/now online. That’ll just redirect you over to episode number 260.

Which in that one specifically, the show notes is a full tutorial as to the software I use as to the gadgets that I recommend. Other streamlining methods in terms of modifications of different inductions. Oh, here’s one more thing before we wrap this up for the week. A quick solo episode to give you some useful strategies and get you out there working would be this.

And let me just walk through the language of this first and then I’ll explain. Hey, before we get started, all of these video platforms are like a straw and only so much of the milkshake fits through, metaphorically at a time, which is why watch this click. I turn off my video feed once the actual session begins, because first of all, your eyes are gonna be closed, so you wouldn’t be able to see me anyway.

And two, it saves us on the bandwidth, even outstanding internet connections. It saves the bandwidth and makes the audio quality a little bit better. And I’ll turn it back on when we’re done. Sound good? Great. There we go. So what am I doing there? I am turning off my video feed when the session begins.

Here’s why. Yes. Uh, Zoom can record to the cloud. I’m always recording locally because it tends to be a little faster. And you know, that way I’m not having to delete the cloud files and pay for extra storage, pay for Zoom, everybody. You know? Yes, there’s a free option, but when you pay for it, suddenly it gets better.

I mean, we’re, we’re homeschooling our kids this year. We’re not doing the virtual school learning, we’re doing real on homeschooling, except my, uh, father-in-law being a college professor, is now doing science lessons for our kids by way of zoom, which is really cool cuz they’re getting to see Fran. But we were using a free count at home and it kept stall.

And then paid for it and they unleashed more bandwidth. Whether that’s true or not, we’ll find out, but again, it’s a cheap expense. It’s worth it, but I found this to be true. Someone else’s connection. Zoom works like YouTube, works like Vimeo, works like Facebook videos where it will buffer the quality based on the your connection.

So by turning off one of the video feeds, and again, fair statement, their eyes are closed. So they wouldn’t be able to see me anyway. So yes, I’m turning off my video feed. The moment they close their eyes inside of the formal part of the hypnotic process, which makes it so the downloads are smaller. Yes, I’m going in and then pulling out the one audio, which is just me if I’m producing an audio for the client.

But that does tend to save on the bandwidth. I haven’t really had the, the call drop issue as we used to with. But again, ooh, strategy number seven is what we’re up to. And hey, if there’s ever a moment where it becomes very obvious that our connection is dropped, you’ll realize that immediately reestablish the connection.

And we’ll just pick up where we left off. Sound good? And that’s as nonchalantly as I’m handling the call drop issue, which again, Thanks to Zoom being a better platform, that really hasn’t happened for me in a while. And again, just a little bit of a safety check. I’m then turning off at least my video feed and then that way I can still see them.

So there you go. Episode number 292. We’re now call it several strategies. For online sessions. Jason Lynette here once again, and as always, thank you so much for interacting with this program, for using it in your ongoing education and well conversations in the hypnotic profession as well. Sharing it in your social media streams.

Once again, you can head over to hypnotic workers.com. That’s the all access pass to my online hypnosis training library. Or if you want a bit of a preview there, check out Work Smart Hypnosis dot. Forward slash power. That’s where we’re, We’ve got the hypnotic phenomenon power pack, which as a note is part of hypnotic workers, but if you wanna check out one part before jumping into the entire system, that’s a great way to get started there.

That’s the hypnotic phenomenon, Power Pack [email protected] slash power. Thanks for listening. Stay safe everybody. Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast and work smart hypnosis.com.