Session #53: Sheila Granger and Pioneering Success

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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, Session number 53, Sheila Grainger and Pioneering success. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, Your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business six. Sets. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Hello and welcome back.

It’s Jason Lynette here with an action pack session here today with a familiar name, Sheila Grainger. You likely already know from the virtual gastric band program. Definitely one of the biggest. Weight loss, hypnotic phenomenon out there. If indeed the only one really out there, It’s a fabulous program in which you work with a client’s subconscious mind to help your client rapidly get conditioned being satisfied with a more appropriate portion of food.

Now, what’s interesting inside of this recording you’re about to listen to with Sheila is that we really don’t spend too much time talking about virtual gastric band, which you can learn more about over at her website. Sheila grainger.com, or even on my training page, learn virtual gastric band.com. Now, what’s interesting again inside of this program is that we talk a little bit more about Sheila’s origin story, how she got involved in hypnosis, where she’s taken it, and some of the fascinating directions it’s now taking her as well.

So let’s jump right in. This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number 53, Sheila gra. And pioneering success.

Yeah, so I’ve been in, um, hypnosis g for around about, uh, seven years now. And, uh, my background, I worked for the government and I was a, um, fraud investigator. So my job was to knock on people’s doors with allegations that they were fiddling their social security benefits. And my job was to get the government’s money back, prosecute these people and take them to, And you think it was quite a negative job, Really, But I actually quite enjoyed it from the point of view of, I probably didn’t realize in some way that I was using hipp nurses.

You know, I view hip nurses in a way. It’s high level. Communication skills and you know, I was building rapport with these people and although I was going to prosecute them, I always used to leave their house and they say, Oh thanks so much love for coming to see me . So, you know, so I’ve done them a favor and I never really intended to do anything else.

I did that job for 22 years and then I happened to see a hyp nurse’s training. And I was a bit of a librarian at the time. I liked to gather information and I’d always had that interest in, well, how do we think, you know, how does the human mind work? So I thought, What the heck? I’ll go on this hypnotherapy training course.

And I never intended to start a business, to be honest with you, Jason. I don’t quite know. Ended up, ended up. But I, um, went on this course and at the time I thought, Well, this is quite good, this stuff. And if I saw a couple of people a week and charged them, You know, a hundred dollars a session then, you know, that’s, you know, nice little bit of extra income on top of my normal job, on top of the day job.

Um, started seeing some people from home after I qualified, and then I noticed the difference you can make to somebody’s life and that drive then took over to do more of it. So, in a short space of time, um, I’ve been working with a, a chiropractor and his wife. And, and their children doing private sessions and they happens to give me the opportunity to work out of their office.

And, and for a year I balanced doing the day job and doing the HYP nurses as well. And I got to the point where there wasn’t enough hours in the day. I was never really getting a break. I was either doing hyp nurses or I was doing the day job and I’d matched my income or doubled my income, um, months on, months for 12 months.

And I used to turn up at the day job and people used to say, What are you doing here? Cause by this point, you know, I’d got press articles about the work that I’ve been doing. Um, you know, I regularly used to go and talk on the radio. And so eventually I thought, Yeah, go with your passion. Go with what you want to do.

So I eventually. Gave up the day job and launched. It’s a full time business. I think that’s a really interesting story for people to hear, just for the reason that I think that’s probably one of the bigger fears of someone who is looking at making that transition. And I love that approach that you mentioned of you let it gradually take over.

you let it get to a point where it just didn’t make sense anymore to stay in the old job? No, I mean, you know, I was in a position as well, you know, I didn’t have a, um, husband at home. I’d gone through a divorce, so there was to look after, you know, mortgage to pay. So I think a lot of people, you know, we have that fear that’s, well, what if I can’t make the money?

What if I don’t get any clients? And that fear keeps people almost rooted to the spot as well. Um, so if we almost take. A sensible approach to it that this is going to take a while. Um, you know, we all want to, you know, have all those clients walking through the door immediately, but as you and I know Jason, you know, building a business takes a while, um, to people to get to know you.

So, you know, scattering the seeds in your local community, um, so that client base starts to build. And the word of mouth stuff starts to build up. But then once you’ve, you know, you see the income coming in, and I’ve always taken the view from the very beginning that really almost 20% of what you earn should be going back into your business to make it bigger and better.

Absolutely. Yeah. It’s that path of growing. It’s that challenge that some people would have perhaps of, you know, looking at, you know, I’m out there, you’re out there too, talking about the benefits of, uh, email marketing and to look at a service and see perhaps some sort of monthly rate attached to it. The thought at first would be, I can’t afford to do that.

And you and I perhaps sort of be agreeing that we can’t afford not to do that. So you were looking at the hypnosis training originally, just from that curiosity. Then it kind of took over from there. What was the next step? I’m very much, almost a bit of a, I like to see the evidence of something. And I think sometimes even when we’re working with clients, you know, they, we brought about the change in them.

We think, well, have we brought about our change? Is that real? Has it really happened? And so almost we don’t believe in ourselves enough, but so I like to see the evidence of something. So, so then, you know, really, I, I almost launched straight into a lot of my clients were weight. And the system that I’d been trained in was a little bit hit and miss.

You know, it worked with some people, not for others. And then I came upon this gastric bound, um, protocol for, Oh, I wonder if I can make that work. And really sort a, it all launched from there, you know, from doing some initial research and being brave or stupid enough to invite the local press along to independently verify any results that I had and, That really started launching things and, and bringing the clients through the door.

Um, you know, that initial press exposure and then also pushing for what further of ins can I get with this? Um, let’s see, some clinical trials on it. So it was really, I suppose it’s pushing the, the boundaries all the time and, and what can we do is a profession to build credibility in that profession.

Absolutely. And the journey of getting virtual gastric band from original idea to. Sort of international sensation now. What was that arc like for you? I mean, I look back at it now, Jason and I almost, well, in a way I don’t look back cause I’m always working on the next thing. And people sometimes say, you know, Well yeah, you’ve done really well.

How would you even started? Now? Do you manage all of that? And it still comes from that, you know, I suppose the, you’ve got to have an inner drive that you want to make a difference and, and now that making a difference comes. Not just from, you know, the clients, but you know, my clients and now other hypnotherapist as well.

You know, how do they build a business? How do they start off, you know, what support do they need with that? Because, you know, I always think, well, there isn’t really anything special about me. You know, I’m not. The best iist in the world or anything like that. I’ve just been brave enough to start pushing the boundaries and putting myself out there and seeing original sort of gastric work.

You know, I read a newspaper article, um, some people in the in Spain called the Sharons, and they claim to have come up with this, um, concept of the gastric mind band. And I just read a newspaper article. Thought, Well, you know, what can I do with that? And is that possible and can I make it work? And really devise my own program around that concept.

Um, you know, tried it, tested it, altered things until I got something that yes, this really seems to work with people. Well, I think there’s an interesting thing to point out here, which I, I’ll tell the story briefly at a student in a previous class that it was a funny experience because there were people in this course who were kind of getting annoyed with this man that he was.

And the phrasing was, but he’s still getting trained. He shouldn’t be out there doing all these things cuz he was interacting with friends and. People he’d run into in bookstores and it’d be, Oh, you have a fear. Let’s do something for that . Oh, you smoked, you wanna change that? And he’d just jump right into that change process.

And it was interesting dynamic because the fellow students were getting annoyed by this. And I was the one of course getting excited about this. And there’s something to be said about in the early days, I think, just not knowing enough to be fearful, not knowing enough to quote, know better. So I think you’ve got an interesting story though, about jumping into kind of a hypno birthing opportunity, right?

Yeah. I mean, it’s almost like, um, a marketing stream for me really when I look back at it, but I probably didn’t realize that’s what I was doing at the time. Um, my very first one before the hypno birthing was, I’d only been qualified for. Probably about two weeks. And I was one of those people who actually didn’t do that much practice while I was doing the training course.

I didn’t really get myself out there, you know, I did a few sessions with family and friends and that was about it. But I’ve got this qualification, so, and on the front page of my local newspaper was a play for help and it was a lady who would hit Hiccup for five and a half years, continu. So I rang the paper up and said, you know, I’m a hypnotherapist and I might be able to help up lady.

So if you like to offer a complimentary session, um, she just needs to ring me open or gave details. And the next day the paper rang me back and they said this lady would want to bring her to you and want to film the session for our website. No pressure there. Then , so this lady came, she was one of these clients who actually you couldn’t get very much outta, so when we look at language patterns or what resources somebody has to fix themselves, she really didn’t give me that much information.

And I remember sitting in the session and I’m counting from one to 10 on my induction thinking, I hope there is an angel in this room that’s going to tell me what to say, to this lady because I can’t remember hiccuping in my training course. Anyway, the lady did stop hiccuping during the session. And then the following day, the newspaper write a full page article about how I’d stop this lady hiccuping.

And a course send the phone rings off the hook because clients, potential clients have self-identified themselves having a problem. And if you can help that lady with this, I’m sure you can help me deal the Alida, you know, And going back to that point that you made about, you know, sometimes we think, you know, we’ve got to be qualified or, um, you know, we’ve got to have certain things in place.

Well, I think it’s similar to. I’d call it the certificate junkie being the mindset of, as soon as I have this piece of paper, I can do this. As soon as I have this, I can do that, as opposed to kind of trusting where they are and just jumping. Yeah, we’re always sort of looking for permission in effect.

That’s what we’re doing, isn’t it? We’re looking for permission by having that certificate or having that piece of paper that yes, I can do this. And it’s interesting cuz I had a conversation with, um, I’m involved in the MUR at the moment in writing a book and it’s a book called Girl The Hallway and Hall, which is my closest city, has won City of Culture two 17.

So what I’m doing for that is I’m writing a book that’ll go with that, and I’m interviewing all the successful inspirational people that come out the city. You know, what are their habits, routines, you know, how do they think? And the sections on politicians, business leaders, Sports personalities. So I’m interviewing all these people will videoing, it’ll be a website for it.

And at the back of it, you know, I’ll be putting, Okay. What are the strategies that the average J Man in the street can use to improve their life? You know, what is it that these people are doing? Um, one of the guys I interviewed, he runs a, like an entrepreneur circle type of thing where they help entrepreneurs of tomorrow.

And he said, I say to a colleague, the real entrepreneurs will be in this. Because the people in this group are asking permission to go and do something and he says, You’re not asking permission’s. Go and write this book. You’re just doing it. But really, again, you know, it’s a great, Well, hopefully, you know, it’s a great marketing tool and because what I’m really doing is connecting with all these people.

So, you know, the business leaders who need stress management in their organization, um, you know, who are they gonna know about, are gonna know about me. Um, you know, the sports people when they need psychological skills training for their sports, who is it that they know about? Um, so, you know, it’s, it’s.

Going to be hopeful. It’s a great profile raise. Um, it’s really interesting doing it. Um, but one thing that comes out of that book is that all of these people that I’ve interviewed, and none of them were born sort of what, what we call in England with a silver spoon in the mouth. So none of them have come from a background of, um, or a moneyed background.

They’ve all built whatever they’ve built from absolutely nothing. They’ve had absolutely nothing. They’ve built, um, some of them, you know, fantastic businesses. And they’ve done it in sort of completely on their own back, but they all had a passion for making a difference to something, and they ran with that passion and the rest came as a result of it.

There’s something that you, that you hit on there that I wanna highlight here, which was that when we look at getting started at something, To look at it from that position of, you know, marketing the hypnosis. Though what you did there was that you’re writing this book for this local project and it becomes a marketing stream for you.

But what it does is it actually positions the hypnosis perhaps to use our language is a bit of a presupposition that Sheila Grainger’s writing this book, she’s a hypnotherapist, and it’s moving on to the next phase. Which in many ways folds in the hypnosis as it assumed that this is just what you do and you’re this professional in your local community.

Similar, I know that you also talk about the value of business networking, like a bni, a business networking international, to which my mindset, what I was doing that was I’m there to represent what I care about professionally and by accident. That’s gonna bring me a lot of clients. Yeah, I mean, I’m a a big business networker and you know, all the people you know, for this book, um, that I want to get to, you know, I’m getting to them all through business networking.

So, uh, I go to might say a b and I group, and it’s every Thursday morning, horrendous time in the morning. And you know, I think about who would be good for this book and I, I stand up and I say, you know, good morning than everybody. My name is Sheila Green. I’m a professional clinical hip therapist. This week I’m looking for your help for a personal introduction to, and I name the person because people know people.

So you know, I’m getting say every single one of them through business networking, or the person that I’m interviewing is getting me the next person. Because I’ll say to them, you know, who else do you think ought be in this? And, you know, do you know though, in my, um, my cell phone now, Jason, it’s just full of, you know, really, really good con, really good influential people and contacts, I think.

Oh, who sling today? Nice, nice. . Well, I stole, uh, I stole a strategy one time from a past client, which was that she was a high powered real estate person locally. When you visited here, what was it? When we drove by the White House, it was that, oh, that did take an hour to drive 10 miles. There’s so much traffic in this area that she invented a game called, uh, Business Networking Traffic, Russian Roulette, , which was that.

The side note here, of course, with the Bluetooth headset in place, she’d opened up her phone and just randomly scroll through all the contacts and then stop it. And then from that screen that would display seven or eight people. Huh? Oh, I haven’t talked to Sheila in a while. Mm-hmm. and just randomly called the person and I, I have to admit I’ve used that in the past, and whether it’s been a past client that I reconnected with that just, Hey, checking in to see how well things are going for you, or even some sort of business contact or even fellow hypnotist, it’s actually traditionally resulted in either a really good conversation or helped to ignite some sort of new project or new connection.

Yeah. And that’s it, isn’t it, Jason, that you, Lot of the time we forget about our existing network, You know, sort of, you know, when say somebody snaps off new in the hypnotherapy profession to think, Oh, I’ve got get the next customer, or the customer. How do I do that? And, you know, think, oh, I, I dunno if I can afford.

Expensive business networking group yet, but people forget about their existing networking. Keeping in touch with those people and having, you know, regular sort of just chats with those people because it is where ideas come from and where one thing almost leads to the next. Absolutely. So let’s kind of switch gears for a moment, and I always like to ask this question.

Someone comes into your office, someone is there because they are there for change, whether it’s weight loss, whether it’s anything else. Kind of describe perhaps the feeling you want that client leaving your office with the experience. If you can kind of characterize what your goals are of that initial.

I mean, the girls obviously, I mean, I invite people to, um, a complimentary consultation. Um, and that’s the whole theory behind my marketing is really to get somebody sitting in front of me, one of therapist if you like. I the people to see clients now. So Id to work on some bigger projects. Um, so unless it’s a really interesting case, I, I want to do myself, you know, Then, um, I.

You know, get somebody else to do it, but the whole girl is to leave that, let that person, um, leave thinking, Yes, this person can really help me. Um, I know it’s going to work. So, you know, on the walls, on my clinic walls, I have, you know, lots and lots of frame testimonials before and after pictures. Um, so, and that’s actually what they’re, apart from me, that’s what they’re looking at on that wall.

Um, so everything is sort. Framed, if you like, for success. You know, it’s a massive rapport building exercise. And then, you know, the whole idea of that is they’re then going to be converted into somebody who then buys a program. Um, I don’t sell single sessions. Because, you know, it’s a bit of a flawed business model really.

Um, in that we’ve then gotta go and find the next customer. And apart from maybe smoking ces, um, you know, a lot of things can be sold as a program. Uh, so if we packages programs, people are actually maybe buying four sessions froms upfront, and they’re not questioning your own price as. Rather, you know, they’re not looking at hourly rate.

So, you know, I’d give that client opportunity to explain what their issue is. Um, you know, I’d explain what hyp is, what it isn’t. I’d do that in insult, a bit of a funny way, really. So it makes them laugh. And so the other thing with that as well is that when they’re coming back for their fair session, they’re extremely relaxed.

I think I know this person. I like her, you know, she’s makes me feel really comfortable. I haven’t got anything to worry. And the other thing as well is by dropping positive suggestion all the time because you know the client is taking on board everything you are saying from the point that you’ve talked to them on the telephone, from the moment they walk into your office moment, they walk outta it.

So I think we’ve gotta be very careful about, you know, the words that we use and how we are putting ourselves across in that initial. Well, it’s that experience that everything about the experiences, hypnosis, everything that’s going on is the hypnotic process. Mm. Yeah. I mean, what happens in your chair is really just the icing on the kick, right?

Yeah. So let me ask you this then. So we’re looking at how people learn hypnosis. If you could rewind things back, what would you have done differently as you were getting. I think from a, a much earlier stage, I would’ve looked to learn the business side of. It’s like most therapists, you know, we haven’t left school thinking, I think I want to be therapist when I leave college.

You know, we’ve all had a, a norm, you know, most of us had a normal day job, if you like, and not come from a business background or a point of view of, you know, how do you run a business. I’ll set that up. And a lot of hypnotherapy training courses that people go on. Don’t teach them anything. They teach you a skill set of how to help people.

And without having any business knowledge then, you know, people struggle if you like to, How do you get the work into your door? And it’s sad because the passion that somebody has for helping people, Slowly starts to diminish because they think there’s not a big enough market. There’s too many other people out there doing it, and it really isn’t a case of that.

Because I always think if you look at the list of things that hypnotherapy can help with, how can you possibly run out a clients? Or areas to work in. You know, my biggest issue is I actually see too many opportunities, you know? So I reach that overwhelmed point because I then go, I could do that. No, yes, we could go to that area.

So, you know, there’s a huge number of solutions that we can offer Almost every man on the street. So, you know, from my hypnotherapy training, I would’ve liked to have seen. More ways of, you know, how do you actually package sessions for clients and also from the business point of view, you know, how do you really start off, um, what are the things you should be doing and connecting with other like-minded people and keeping that connection.

And that’s not necessarily from, um, Facebook groups because I think some, some of the Facebook groups can actually put you off a little. You know, you sort of think, Oh, these people are doing great stuff, or, you know, they’re not really sharing information, so, you know, it’s mixing with like-minded people.

Yeah. So building that network for success, but then also putting it all together in terms of how to actually offer that service to the, to the public. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I’ve said that saturation and strength to be in an area where there’s other people working actually helps to increase the validity of it.

You know, someone who’s looking at hypnosis and they can see one option. It’s the question of, do I do this, yes or no? And if they’ve got multiple options to choose from, then it becomes which one do I go to? And it makes it a much better decision point though, from the position that there’s so many different issues that we can help with there.

So many categories that aren’t necessarily solving a problem. There’s working with clients that are in that good to great format. We’re not quite yet at that place where there’s enough hypnotist out there to help the number of people out there who can benefit from the service. No, and the key thing is, is, you know, it’s like, it’s not selling hypnosis.

You know, I, I sell a solution to a problem. So, you know, recently the things that I’m sort of involved in is stress management in the work. Uh, so I’ve been asked to go and work for a big corporate employer with 2000 employees offering a one to one service, um, one or two days a week for those employees.

So, you know, I give presentations to which our managers to, you know, why they are not doing enough for their employees, but going at it from their angle, you know, their legal duties, their moral duties, and the cost implication. Of negligence claims and so talking the language that they understand and why, you know, if perhaps they’ve got in-house employee service that employees don’t trust that.

They just think if I’m off with stress, that’s just if you’re sending me to an in-house employee service or you know, something that’s linked to the business, they feel that that’s a stick to beat them with, not a solution or a way of helping them. Um, so I look at organizations and, you know, bringing about a cultural change as well.

So it’s looking at things from that perspective. Um, I’m also involved in, um, a network marketing company who. They sell beauty products and you know, they are all salespeople. They want to know how to sell better and how to perform at the best in those situations. So, you know, I’m doing work with them as well with, um, a beauty that being a product that’s expanded out to that group of people.

Um, so it’s all, you know, very diverse. And I still do a lot of work in schools. You know, I’ve got school contracts. So, you know, you sort of think, well, how do all those things fit together? They’re all totally different areas, but we could literally, in the hypnosis world, you know, we couldn’t, We can have multiple businesses and that’s in effect what I have, I suppose, is multiple businesses, which at its core, it still becomes a similar message of helping people navigate from a place of challenge to a place of solution.

Yeah, absolutely. I think, you know, when we first train we sort, we want to go out and say, Oh yes, I’m a hypnotist. I can, you know, and it’s a bit like the eager kicks in, you know, but it’s taking a step back from that and thinking, you know, what is it I’m actually offering, um, you know, who is my audience?

Absolutely. So tell me about this refresher course you’ve got coming up. Yeah, so I’ve got a refresher cast coming up in London. Um, you know, a lot of therapists that I’ve sort of come across on the travels, they’re lacking confidence a bit. Um, maybe their initial training didn’t cover how to package programs or, you know, all the different tools and strategies within your hyp nurses training.

How do you put that together in real? Um, because of course if we don’t come across as confident of our clients, then they’re not gonna buy you service cuz that they’re gonna feel that. And no matter how much we try to hide that, we’ve not got the confidence it will share through. So, you know, I want to make sure people have got the right training, the confident how you put all those tools and strategies together.

So I’m actually offering a refresher training in London, um, at the end of this month, at the end of November. But it’s actually something that people can take part in, uh, you know, wherever they are in the world. Cause it’s going to be a live streamed event. Um, it’s really, again, coming from that angle of making sure that people have got the right skills, the right strategies, and they know how to put that together and market it as well.

Excellent. And we’ll do, uh, a redirect link for that. To make it easy on folks, just head over to work smart hypnosis.com/refresher and that will give the information for that upcoming course. So let me ask you this, Someone is brand new to hypnosis and I love. The aspect of the origin story here that, uh, and it’s something that I think many of the hypnosis organizations should perhaps take note of that here you were someone who was coming into a training.

Just out of curiosity, you weren’t coming in necessarily with any original career goals. You were just coming in from a place of, I wanna learn more about this. What advice, what, uh, guidance would you give to someone who’s brand new at. I think, yeah, we’re all unique and individual and, you know, everybody comes into it for a different reason.

Um, a lot of people are because they’ve had a positive change themselves or they’ve, um, seen somebody else experience a positive change. Oh, it could be just be somebody like myself who’s almost fallen upon it and that curiosity has grown. The Hypnotherapy training course offers a huge amount of personal developments anywhere because, you know, I know myself that if I.

Knowing what I learned now, how the human mind works. And I probably have used mine in a much better direction many years before I actually did. You know, a lot of people if when had a conversation last night, we have a little, it’s called a law of attraction group, but it’s really a little mini mastermind.

Um, and it’s just a few friends and we get together once a month and we help each other out with sort of business stuff. But it’s also life stuff as well. You know, what is it that you really want in life and. How can we help people get there? And we just meet up once a month and you know, one of the guys, actually an author is a poet and I haven’t known him very long.

He said, you know, listening to your story, you know, it’s almost as though, you know, when you were freed up from the dare job, you suddenly decided to start launching these massive rockets. You know, you didn’t do things gradually. You just thought, right now I’m gonna, now I’m gonna rocket as well. And really sort of set things off in every area of your.

And I think it has gotta be a gradual thing when we’re doing that course that we, we learn the skills ourselves, we, we live and breathe that, and then we see how we can help others with. It’s that position that it is one of my challenges that I can’t necessarily teach one aspect of what I did in hypnosis, uh, the way that I did it, cuz I kind of did the opposite for a while, which was the, uh, I had done many years of preparation and many years of planning, and then it became the moment of pull off the bandaid.

I’m jumping in, you know, I’m signing the scary lease and I better make this work. But from that position of. That gradual sort of transition that fade from one end to the other that, you know, we have that ability to perhaps open up some sort of temporary office. And, you know, we’re not necessarily lying, but we could simply say, Well, my schedule is full, but I could see you on Saturday.

Yeah, yeah. . Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and it’s things like, you know, you can, you know, change your cell phone, answering machine every day, you know, And so today is you says, do the whatever. And you know, I’m currently in client sessions between until 5:00 PM Your call is important to me. Uh, so please leave.

And I will call you back as soon as possible. So the message that you put out is that you’re busy, yes. That you might actually be busy and you did a job, but people don’t know that. Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast and work smart hypnosis.com. Hey, it’s Jason here and I wanna thank you so much for joining me with this outstanding session that we just had with Sheila Gra.

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