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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number 70, Tommy V on hypnotic confidence. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business success. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. So how did you first find out about hypnosis?
this is Jason Lynette here. And that simple question of how did you find out about hypnosis is probably one of the most telling questions that you can ask a client that’s coming into your office, or maybe even the event planner that’s calling you if you’re a stage hypnotist. And what’s interesting is that unfortunately there’s.
Polarizing conversation in our profession, though to point to several folks in the history of hypnosis that really had this wonderful balance between both being the stage hypnotist as well as the hypnotherapist as well. And that brings us full circle to this awesome conversation you’re about to listen to with none other than Tommy v.
Tommy has been in hypnosis now for well over 25 years, and you’ll hear the story of how hypnosis really figuratively, maybe, literally is in his blood. As lovely as that sounds, and you’re gonna hear some conversations involving things about classical themes, but also how do we address them in such a way that build for a much more empowering result.
So whether they are the suggestibility test, how do we build expectations with clients? How do we put on a presentation in our local community that packs our office with paying clients? And even the theme of what do you do with a client where things are perhaps not yet clicking, things are not yet budging in terms of that change process.
Tommy’s a worker, he’s got some awesome ideas and some ideas and tips and tricks to share with you here, so let’s jump right in. This is session number 70, Tommy V on hypnotic confidence.
So we kind of bounce around inside of the conversation. So I’m curious, I, I was glancing on your website and it referenced that your very first show was back in 1991. Yeah. That’s about, Yeah. So the magical question often becomes, and all things personal change. If I knew then what I know now, what would you have done different?
Well, how, let’s, let’s kick it off, right? How did that first show go for. , you we’re not recording now, correct? Oh, we already are. Oh, we are. Great. Seamless transition . The first show great. As I remember, it was a college show and I was behind the curtain and there was about five or 600 freshmen for orientation and they were chanting my name to me.
To me, yes. And I was really nervous and I was like, What did I get into ? I stood in the center of the curtains and they o it opened up. And there they were, and I was nervous. But all of that kind of goes away once the show gets going. Mm-hmm. . So it was a, a little maybe frightening at first. Overwhelming. It was, it was a fun time.
And, um, did you ask what would I do differently or, Yeah. What if you had to go back and give advice to yourself basically for 25 years ago, what would that be? The, the biggest thing is I wouldn’t have been as nervous because there’s no need for that. You know, As long as you’re prepared with anything, I guess, in.
You deserve to walk in with confidence. Not being nervous. A little nervous is okay, but there’s no, you know, I was pretty nervous. And, um, even Bob Streisand or Frank Sinatra, they would get a little nervous before going on stage, but a little bit is okay. As woman McGill used to say, as long as the butterfly is a flying information, , it’s a good thing.
So, um, I guess I would be, uh, I wouldn’t be as nervous. It’s non-productive. It’s a waste of. and I, I’d reference that. Yes, there might be. I’m sure some venues that quote may be more difficult, may be tougher than others. Yet I can channel back to when I was working in a theater career and having to moderate auditions.
Was one of these just. , oftentimes exciting, get often painful experiences, , because it’s that statement that the people in the audience, deep down inside, really wants you to succeed. It is to be on the other end of that table in an audition process. It’s painful to see someone up there just flailing, failing, bombing at it.
So to be there in that experience where they’re not only chanting your name and they’re so expected of what’s about to happen, to really embrace that, I love that as a mindset. You, you, you’re right. And um, it’s interesting. We teach that to students who are learning stage hypnosis about having that mindset that the audience wants you to do good.
So some entertainers, you know, they think backstage, Oh my God, uh, they, they, someone wants to see me fail or whatever. That’s totally untrue. They want the audience, especially if they paid, they want you to be successful. They came to see a great show. They came to have a good time. Yes. Yeah. So if you develop that mindset that, Hey, we’re gonna have a good time.
The audience wants to see me, I think you become a better performer. Which this even translates over to the hypnotherapist as well, because there’s, I mean, my honest opinion, way too much conversation at any convention, at any class about the resistant client, the client who was not willing to participate.
And I think these are unfortunately more often created than they’re. that it’s, it’s the result of a lack of rapport. It’s the result of a lack of explanation of the process or really to use the word you just shared that, of the mindset going into it that this person’s gonna show me everything I need to see.
They’re gonna guide me to where I need to take them. And together we’re gonna have a great time. , I guess that’s perhaps called expectation. Hey, that’ll work out for us. That’ll work out. So I, I’d share, there’s an interview that I think I may have referenced this on previous recordings, and it, it’s, it’s helpful to know who it is.
I’m talking about, He’s not even involved in the hypnosis community. He’s someone actually who used to be on Saturday Night Live and the actor comedian Jason Suku. And it’s a, it’s an amazing interview where, He, he’s now probably doing more movies than anyone else has done since that show in rapid fire succession.
And he’s being interviewed and the interviewer goes, So what was it like telling your parents you wanted to leave school and become an actor? And this comedian actor basically responds, Oh, great, you clearly didn’t do any research because my uncle is George. . Not that my uncle got me my start in my career yet.
I just came from a family that it was more accepted to, in his words, run off and join the circus and, and be an actor. And here we are chatting. And how, how would you say it was growing up in a hypnosis family? And for those that don’t know your father’s Jerry Valley? Right. It was very interesting. Uh, he probably got into it when I was in the eighth grade or maybe a freshman in high.
and I had no interest of it in it too much, and I didn’t get into it until I was around 30 years old. Hmm. So I used to see Dad do the shows and we would, he would take us, he would get booked at resorts in New England and we would make it a family vacation and go overnight. And so I was always exposed to it.
And then I saw him going to work at night in his office after working at a full-time job during the day, seeing clients. And I have even used hypnosis in the eighth grade for history, for improving my grades in history, but I had no interest in it. I went off to college and, and did hotel business and, and really didn’t get into it until the age of 30.
So, but it was fun. It was fun. Uh, it was no big deal though. I mean, he was pretty well known and still is. Um, but it was, uh, it was interesting going, traveling around doing the shows with the family. It was a lot of. . So then let’s rewind it back then. What was that transition for you? What was it that motivated that shift into the hypnosis community?
Are you ready for this? Yeah. I got fired from the hotel. Hmm. I lost my job in the hotel business and I didn’t want to get back in it. And I was discouraged in, uh, doing all sorts of things in real estate and furniture work. And then my father suggested, Why don’t you try hypnosis? And I said, I don’t know.
And, and I thought about it and I said, Well, I don’t want to go on stage because I consider myself shy. So I said, I’ll do the clinical stuff. And then I went off to the GH and, and became certified, which at the time was a two day class. Mm-hmm. and I got trained by George bn, who was fabulous. Then I went in my father’s office and worked alongside him training and, and did clinical hypnosis for a few years.
Then one night Jerry said, I have a local show. next town over, Why don’t you come down to my show? You can come out as a guest stage hypnotist and do a couple experiments. And I said, Well, yeah, I guess I could do that. So, uh, he did that. We had a big show, a dinner show, and he brought me out on stage. And everybody, of course was already hypnotized by then.
And I came out and did a couple experiments, like make the belly button disappear or have them sing or dance. And then I left the stage, then I went home and said, Gee, uh, maybe I could do this . It was pretty easy. So I made up a one page flyer that had my photo and a paragraph. I’m doing all sorts of shows and at the bottom were these words, universities, television, radio, supper, clubs, corporate fairs, and so on.
And, and I hadn’t done any of those yet and it didn’t say that I did, but it implied that . So, you know, I started mailing out the flyers and that was 25, 25 years ago. . So now I am both. I do clinical hypnosis and comedy stage hypnosis, and it’s a great combo. How, how do you draw that line, if at all? Cause I know that there’s some stage hypnotist that would even go so far as to hide their hypnotherapy career.
There’s some that are even the hypnotherapist and using all these words interchangeably, whether it’s consulting, hypnotist, hypnotherapist, hypnotist. You get the idea. Do you, do you draw a line between the two in terms of how you structure your thinking around. Yeah, well there are some hypnotherapist that think that stage hypnosis hurts the hypnotherapy business, and it does if there are bad shows, perhaps, or people get embarrassed or hurt on stage.
But I think just the opposite. And I, I, I think it helps my business. I’ve gotten many, many, many clients in my hypnosis office from my shows, especially if they’re. If they’re in near your office, then they can come to your office. If I’m out of town, uh, thousands of miles away, ob obviously they won’t come to me, but I will promote the local hypnotist wherever I am.
So I think it’s a good thing when I, you know, it’s powerful when somebody comes to your office to lose weight, to stop smoking or whatever, and they say, You know, I saw your show the other night that was pretty powerful. They’re already, they already have the right mindset. So it’s a good thing. It works well for me and it’s not a problem doing.
So how do you respond to that person who perhaps feels that the stage hypnosis may be giving it a bad name, even if it is a quality show where no one’s being embarrassed, no one’s being put in uncomfortable situations? Well, everybody’s entitled to their opinion, but I, I disagree with that. If it’s, if it’s a ethical show, it could be somebody in the audience that says, Wow, that that hypnotist made that person forget their last name, and they looked at their license and they couldn’t see it.
maybe, maybe they could help me stop smoking. What’s wrong with that? So that, that I say to them, you know, an ethical show actually helps you out, sir, or ma’am. And, and even if you don’t want to do, shows yourself, every clinical hypnotist might want to think about stage hypnosis training because there are techniques you can use in your office and it builds your confidence and you can do local demonstrations and so on to get.
So I, I, I think they might wanna reconsider if they think it’s hurting the business. An ethical show doesn’t hurt the business. Yeah. There’s actually going back to a previous session that I actually did with Scott Sandler, and it’s either number 35 or number 37 in this series where we were chatting and it came onto the theme about just the concept of showman.
And, and not necessarily just the showmanship inside of a stage hypnosis presentation. There we are one to one with a client, and there’s this era of showmanship, whether it’s navigating through that classical intake interview, delivering our pre-talk and setting the expectation for the process, that there’s something to be said about.
I, I feel there’s even more of showmanship nowadays in my sessions than there even is in the, in the stage shows that I still do. It’s true. I mean, a lot of clients are coming. expecting something, uh, amazing to happen. Many of them are, and, and I always believe, and, and Jerry, my dad, believes that, you know, one of the most important things with helping your client to be successful is to impress them.
And, and when they come in the office and if you impress them with something or, or you, or what you say or what you do, that’s good. If they’re in a little bit of a of you, that’s good. If they saw you on stage and you. Did this magical thing up there, which really isn’t magical, but to them it is. You know, and they walk in your office.
They believe you have this ability to help them change quickly. So let’s get specific on that. How do you, how do you go about doing that inside of a one to one session? Well have a, uh, some tip, tips and tricks to, uh, impress your people. First of all, make them feel welcome during the interview. You know, get a little bit of rapport going, How many kids do you have?
And so on. Mm-hmm. , we do what we call the hand circle experiment, which is a visual thing that impresses almost everybody on the back of our business cards. We have, uh, that sentence with the avs the os. Oh, yeah. And, and I’ve been using that for over 20 years now, and, and it blows people’s minds. So these little things impress people and, and I think just your level of confidence.
Which you need to have in your office impresses people too. That’s what I have to offer. Yeah. Yeah. So then let’s bring it over to the stage program. How do you, how do you do it there? Well, , when you walk out on stage, you need to be confident, also, very confident. And I do the hand circle experiment on stage.
Yeah, I do the, And just to reference, that’s the whole look at the circle, look at my face. Stick it on your. , right? Yeah. Yeah. Circle on your chin that you have it on your cheek, and that’s a visual thing, which is stronger. And 98% of the people will put it on their cheek and you say, No, your chin is down here.
Ha ha ha. And, uh, , it works all. It’s very simple. It’s like Simon says, but it’s, it’s a visual suggestion that works. And, and on stage. I love, love, love, love doing the hand class experiment. Yes. Hand lock experiment. It is extreme. Impressive in an audience. The larger the audience, the more impressive it is.
When you have people standing up in a, in a 250 person audience and 20, 30, 40 people, their hands are locked and they stand up. That’s pretty amazing. It blows my mind. However, I never do that clinically in the office one on one, that experiment. Why? . Well, because I do other experiments and I think testing it of course, but that this is an experiment that they either pass or fail.
Right? Yeah, that’s a good point. If the client does not lock their hands, they may and probably will feel that, geez, uh, I don’t think I can be hypnotized. Mm-hmm. falling back, test. The arms rising and falling. They don’t know what’s go, what the results. That’s why I don’t do it. Yeah, I, I share a thought on that, which is that as I do, whether it, what we’re referring to basically are in the category of suggestibility tests and whether it’s in the office or more specifically in a stage environment.
There’s this moment, maybe five, six years ago, that my sequence used to be with a group of people. I would do the, the light and heavy arms. I would do the circle test as we’ve been referring, and then the classic finger magnets. And for whatever reason, one day I was more, in the moment I was less on my pattern and leaning on what felt normal and just realized that by accident I was doing the finger magnets first.
Okay. And then I was doing the circle test after that and to rewind the story back, to give it the right context. Whenever I would do that. Light and heavy arms. I would be all inside of my own head, critiquing, judging, getting angry at the audience because there I was telling them to hold their arms out, one hand up, one hand down, close your eyes and become aware of the sound of my voice, and go through all the pattern of this hand’s getting heavier.
It’s holding books. This hand’s got balloons, It’s getting lighter. And I would maybe get compliance, let’s say at best, like 40, 50% of the crowd. And it, because I was asking them to do something where they were closing their eyes. So here’s the show that I did that, it’s this big insurance event out in Roanoke, Virginia.
There’s five, 600 people out in the crowd and I’m, I’m in the moment. It’s a great event and I do the finger magnets first. I do the circle test second and then realizing, Oh wait, I’m about to call for volunteers, but I still want to do that light and heavy arm thing. And going forward at that moment and the story goes, you kind of had to call in the janor to pick up my jaw from the floor because looking out in the crowd, suddenly I had full audience compliance.
Wow. I had everybody eyes closed. One hand up. One hand down. Did they all have the same result? Of course not. And we reframe whatever their result is, yet more specifically that compliance step. And to unpack that, it was this moment of, Well, we can talk about compounding levels of suggestibility in hypnosis.
Yet there’s something to be said about just compounding compliance steps as well. Your eyes are open with the finger magnets. You’re getting to know, like, and trust me, they’re getting impressed to use your language. We’re then doing the circle test, which my phrasing around that is, I don’t do that to say Gotcha.
Gotcha. . And then explaining why I did it. You heard everything I said, You saw everything I did. Yet you followed this series of instructions and then to go into the eyes closed phenomenon again. That magical moment of looking out and oh my God, everybody is doing it. So you think the changing the order?
Yeah. That it came down to rather than going, it worked or it didn’t work, which I’d share in recent events. Now the numbers are not a hundred percent. On the hands lock test yet to follow that same lineage now and then do the hands lock, right? Suddenly now the numbers are so much higher, right? Because it’s that foot in the door.
It’s that foot in the door. It’s that foot in the door. Here’s something that I have done a couple times at shows comedy hypnosis shows that I picked up from Jerry, and I think it’s pretty bold, but it’s amazing and it’s impressive. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re gonna do the hand class of experiment right now.
So if you would put your arms out like this, and before I even do the experiment, this is works with a larger group, of course, couple hundred people. Ladies and gentlemen, before we do the experiment, I have a feeling right now before we even start the experiment, that some of you are already locked. , your hands are locked right now.
Stand. And sure enough, out of a couple hundred people you’ll get a couple that stand up. Yeah. Tell me that’s not impressive, . I love that. I love that there’s what you and I have given, I’d say their presentations that are similar in theme, yet perhaps our styles are different because I do a whole thing of supercharged hypnotic phenomenon, and then you often will do a presentation on.
These suggestibility tests, these impressionable events, and it’s the point where sometimes it’s just that little bit of a throwaway statement that creates every bit of the response that it’s how we as hypnotist often would. We’d get hung up in the tonality. We’d get hung up in the difference between this word versus that word, but the power of just that statement that’s just thrown in there as I’m going for.
Arm lock and errands to the arm, stiff and rigid. The more you try to bend it, it gets even stronger. Type moment. The, the moment that I’ll just sometimes throw in there is my phrasing is I’m gonna count forward and this thing happens more and more. And one, the shoulder locking in place. Two, the elbow straightening out three, the wrist getting stuck in position, and the line is number four.
Huh? You’re already doing it. The hand’s squeezing tightly. Which is this moment of either I’m commenting on it and discovering it, or I’m creating it by suggesting that they’re already doing it. Either way, that hand squeezes down tighter, but it’s that place of, again, I love that in terms of just, uh, Oh, some of you, it’s already happened, right?
Yeah. Yeah. What, what’s the reaction to that when you’ve done that for a crowd? Oh, it’s a, it, it just blows everybody’s, , and it blows my mind too. Again, you know, so they’re in hypnosis when they lock their hands like that, like level two of hypnosis. Mm-hmm. . So, and they’re wide awake and they’re alert and their eyes are open.
So the audience is blown away. And very often the people that lock their hands, they’re blown away. I mean, you have people that, that, Oh my God, they’re looking at their hands. They can’t believe that their hands are. . So it’s extremely impressive and that’s again, important in hypnosis, whether it be clinically or on stage to impress.
Yeah. Well, I mean, take the stage environment and here you are, beginning your program officially, and authority had the foot in the door because of experiences like this. Right, Right. To be in that session with a client, and I mean, my whole thing is let’s just eradicate. That thinking of, uh, I felt relaxed, I guess I was hypnotized.
Right? To instead guide them to that place where the change is actually getting produced, guide them to the place where, wow, this is different. And, and to ride that in terms of, I mean, it’s where you’re working with a client for weight loss and the make or break moment in my opinion is what are the results from session one to session two?
Exactly. That, that’s gonna guide the process, That’s gonna guide the expectation. And just in terms, How well it goes. So bringing in more of the confidence, bringing in more of the phenomenon. I love these themes so far. You do a lot of trainings and I, I’m curious to ask, how many, if you had to give a percentage, how many people are you interacting with in a training environment that, let’s say are brand new to hypnosis versus those that are already doing hypnosis, yet are now expanding their skills?
Well, I teach, uh, clinical hypnosis. . So those are new people that are getting, that wanna be, uh, certified as a clinical hypnotist, a certified consulting hypnotist. And then I also teach comedy stage hypnosis. And again, that those are all types of people. They could be somebody who has zero experience in hypnosis, somebody who’s, uh, only a clinical hypnotist.
Uh, we’ve had doctors, we’ve had brain surgeons, uh, we’ve had priests takeout training, all sorts of walks of life. , some are into hypnosis and some have never been into it. Yeah. Yeah. If you had to split it up, how would you say it is? Oh, out of all the students we’ve had, I say most people are, are new to hypnosis.
Yeah. . Got it, got it. So then from that perspective, I mean to kind of look at it from both the new student coming in as well as the RDC profession, expanding their skills. You know, we did this earlier in terms of your arc, your experience, but what would you say is perhaps, let’s say, the biggest need in our hypnosis profession today?
The biggest need. Can you rephrase that? Maybe it’s extremely general on purpose. The biggest need of what? Of someone learning hypnosis. Someone learning the profession itself. The state of our training. The state of how we are. Take it wherever you want. Well, again, there’s clinical in the stage, hypnosis get some sort of training is the biggest need.
I mean, there are people out there that that just, uh, Let’s try read a book and they start practicing, you know, take, take lots of training and I still take training. Mm-hmm. , I think it’s a lifelong thing. You never, you never know too much and you know, I’m a comedy stage hip and tis been doing that for 25 years.
I love going to see other comedy stage sis even today if I’m not working and if I’m in a town where there’s another show and I can, I’ll go see the show, uh, in support of that person. And also to see what’s going on out there. Mm-hmm. . And to learn as far as clinical hypnotists, go get some training. Talk it up.
Be ethical, be honest. Don’t promise the moon to people. and, and I, and I say that to clients when they call up for clinical hypnosis over the phone. I’ll tell them, I say, Listen, if you want to come into my office and you want me to wave the magic wand and. . Wow. I’m a non-smoker. Wow. I lost 30 pounds. I don’t bite my nails anymore.
Poof. If you want me to wave the magic wand, I’d probably say come back when you’re ready. Or save your money. If you wanna come in and say, I really wanna stop smoking and I’m looking for some help, then I can help you. So no magic wand. Yeah, no. And people ask does, will it work for me? Will it work? Is it guaranteed?
Well, no, it’s not guaranteed. And even your doctor doesn’t guarantee that you’re gonna be successful when he gives you the medicine. They don’t know whether you’re gonna take it or not or whether it’s gonna work for you. We guarantee that we’ll give you all of our support and everything we know to help you and it works if you want it to work, sir.
Oh ma’am, that’s the deal. It works if you want it to work. So let’s get specific on that, cuz I think this is a category. , maybe the intro training doesn’t necessarily get into as much as it as it could, or I even would even go should, but how do you handle that moment where, from your perspective, everything is going the way that it should, yet the change is not budging?
You mean I have a client that’s not successful? Yeah. I never have those. How do you define that? I’m just cleaning. I’m just . If you hear somebody say that they’re a hundred percent I would run the other way. No, there’s a, I’ll leave out who it is, but he’s a business trainer. He’s not a hypnotist. And the line was, he was selling an investment program and you heard the moment of a lack of ethics with line was, Virtually every client I work with makes their money back in much more.
Oh my. But then again, the word virtually, Sorry, I, I’ve heard some hypnotist. Hi. Some hypnotists say virtually everybody I work with stops smoking. It’s like, well, uhoh, virtually . If I have a client that comes back and they’re still smoking, they haven’t lost any weight, uh, they haven’t changed. First of all, it’s a little discouraging sometimes when you, when you do everything you can to help a client, and for some reason it’s, it’s not working, and that’s what they say when they come back, they go, It’s not working.
What do you mean it the hypnosis? . So you, I feel a little bad for them, and, but you have to stay positive and, and you do it again and, and try to find out what’s going on. But you know, are you doing, did you, did you listen to the recording I gave you? How do you feel? Why do you wanna make this change? It’s just, I’d rather be on stage all day.
Hmm. Yeah. Now I chair, there’s a similar thought where the metaphor would be the client is still the one always driving the. . Exactly. And we’re the GPS helping them to get there. So there’s an unfortunate side effect of the statement I’m about to make, which is that that becomes a place where I’m gonna do everything I can to bring the client into the process even more.
That place of here’s an extra recording, here’s an extra technique to make use of which the unfortunate thing is now there’s a hinge to hang it off of if there. No movement at that point. Well, I taught you these things and you still didn’t do them, and I’m not looking for that gotcha moment yet. I’d share the side effect of even that, those should, that now rarely be the concern, cuz usually, Okay, here’s an action step.
What’s something that I, I love the question of, let’s do this right. . Okay. Right now it’s Friday and it’s a little around noon, and we’ve got our next appointment scheduled next week, noon as well, Also Friday. And I’ll simply ask the question, what’s the feedback you want to come in here telling me, right?
The next time you’re here, what are those things you want to have happened? And that’s gonna start to reveal some action steps, things that we can motivate, things that we can begin to anchor the process off of. And as this happens, here’s the result. And as that happens, here’s the result. That’s great. You know, ask the client, what do you want to do between now and next week?
And it also goes back to the initial interview, Why do you wanna stop smoking? Mm-hmm. , why do you wanna lose weight? How would your life be different if you made this change? And, and you gotta nail that down. So if they’re not changing, there might be something else going on, but you, you, you keep going.
Maybe they’ll, maybe they’ll change on the second session. . Beautiful. Beautiful. So you’ve got some cool opportunities coming up and some ways that people can interact with you. You’ve got, and I love the, the pitch of the, What’s the name? It’s the Ultimate Stage Hypnosis seminar that’s been in production for probably 15 years now.
Yeah, that’s us stage training with Jerry, uh, Valley, myself, Michael Desal. That is coming up in a couple weeks right before the NGH convent. , it’s pre-convention, includes the whole convention, the fee for that. Nice. And, uh, and I’m doing some, uh, other one and two hour sessions at the convention also. Yes.
And we, so for the, for the hypnotherapist looking to expand their skills, not just with, perhaps Yes, there’s the option of offering stage hypnosis, but then also, I mean, in terms of all the business stuff that I do, whether it’s consulting or my, my training stuff, it’s how. My, my whole thing is about getting out into your community and being seen and giving those live talks and the skills, the confidence of being the stage hypnotist is directly, I feel the best training for really people to get out there and talk about what they do and not just, not just tell, but also show in that experience.
Awesome. I always preach, get out and do lecture demos. To gain clients. It’s a, it’s a very inexpensive way to do it. Cost your time and maybe a few business cards. And I did that this January to May. I went on, on a rotary tour. Nice Rotary clubs. Yeah. And they love, they love speakers. You don’t get paid for it.
You get a free lunch of breakfast. Might be, you get a pen and, uh, oh. I’m looking at three of those pens right now. And the little Jeff pickup, if they do those, your area and, and you pick up a couple clients. , you know? Yeah. And it gets your, what, your name out there, and you get your card and their hands. No, I mean, as much as we can get really, really savvy.
You know, I, I do some workshops on Facebook marketing, and the pitch is often if you wanna sell a product to people in Phoenix, Arizona who like peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you can position yourself in front of those people on Facebook in a matter of 10 minutes. Yet, all of these things that we would do sitting at home and typing things into our computer using all the new gadgets, nothing beats getting out there and being seen, giving people the actual experience.
It’s, it’s true. Yeah. I mean, I can, I can point to a local rotary group that resulted in like eight or nine clients in the first month and I’ve been doing, what’s it called? Their, uh, interact, which is the high school level of Rotary, I believe. Oh, great. Yeah, that I’ve been doing a fundraiser for them ever since.
So, So what did it cost you, Jason, to do that? initial rotary talk that brought, I’m not even gonna count the gas mileage cuz it’s on the way to my office. . , That’s great. I live around, uh, Burke, Virginia. I live in Burke, Virginia. The meeting was in Springfield. My office is in Alexandria. It’s all the same road.
And, and what’s great is to be there in front of these groups and go as they’re raving. Two questions of the follow up option number one. Hey, I also do a presentation on improving public speaking for business professionals. When would you like to host? Right. And you’re back in front of them again.
Followed by, Hey, what other groups do you know would be interested in these presentations, . And if you are doing, uh, comedy stage hypnosis, the, all these groups, rotary groups, lion clubs, et cetera, they looking for fundraisers. Yes. So we can do a, excuse me, a comedy hypnosis show, dinner show. and uh, you might pick up a show.
Yeah. Well it’s that position of being the hypnotist rather than putting ourselves in the box. If I’m only this. Yes. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now I love this. This is also coming up in August that you’re gonna be as its headline, hypnotist extraordinaire for the first night at the Hypno Thoughts Live Convention.
Oh my God. Am I excited about that? Yeah. , we teach our stage class, Jerry and I at the Orleans Hotel for many years, so we’re very familiar with it and we’ve always been in Las Vegas. And so I’ve been there and I’ve been in that showroom to see, uh, professional singers and so on. Dana Carby and, and, uh, Robert Cray.
But now I’m gonna be on stage and doing my show Friday night, and there are probably five acts that will precede my. Jugglers and magicians and so on. And so I’m very excited about it. It’s gonna be off the hook. Love it. Love it. And the following my favorite business model of just Be Everywhere, right?
Yeah. And seeing people there. So, Cool. Lots of opportunities. I love it. Tommy, I’m so glad we got a chance to do this. Thank you very much. It’s awesome. I always love talking to you. Yeah. And I’ll see you soon. Okay. Have a great day. Oh, real quick, where can people find you? Oh, thank you very much. I [email protected]
T O T O m M Y V E e.com. My phone number? Yes. Uh, we’ll just put the website. That’s easier. Perfect. Yeah, we’ll link all of that [email protected] is there. Is there a site for the stage hypnosis training? Ultimate stage hypnosis seminar.com. And we’ll put links to this. We’ll put links to the shows that hypno thoughts all over in the [email protected]
Tommy, I’ll see you soon. See you in a few weeks. Bye, Jason. All right. Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast and work smart hypnosis.com. Hey there, Jason Lynette here, and once again, thanks so much for participating with this program. If you’re attending any of the upcoming major conventions, whether it’s GH or Hypno Thoughts Live, be sure to check in and pop into some of my programs and seminars and pop by the, uh, table I’ve got in the exhibit hall and just say hello.
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