Session #80: Scott Schmaren on Visionary Opportunities

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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number 80, Scott Schmerin on Visionary Opportunities. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business success. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Jason Lenette here once again with the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, and you are about to encounter an outstandingly memorable conversation.

I first met Scott, I’ve known of him for a couple of years now, but first getting to meet in person, I believe it actually was 2014 over at the MidAmerica Hypnosis Convention up in the Chicago area, the year that he won the award for being hypnotist of the year. Being struck with his incredible story, an incredible story that begins with his own personal.

Life transformation, really getting a, a second chance as you’ll hear it in terms of stepping back into life with better mindsets, better strategies, better options, and uh, better mental perspectives of it. And this incredible journey of learning how to harness that and then spread that awareness to spread that empowering, transformational message.

Literally around the world. He spends his time with individual clients. He spends his time in the corporate arenas and speaking. And I’ll link to this over in the show notes over at Work Smart Hypnosis, uh, a regular guest nowadays on the Howard Sterns Show, as well as a outstanding clip. You’ll see this over there on the website, uh, appearing on Oprah Win.

So a fascinating story, which I, I want you just to hear it for yourself. So let’s jump right in. This succession number 80, Scott Schmerin on Visionary Opportunities.

Yeah. What brought me into this was really the struggle I had as a kid. I was, uh, obese. I was always the fat kid, the heavy kid, and you know, I was teased and made fun of and I spent my. losing weight and then gaining it back and not wanting to gain it back, and really wanting to be happy and enjoy my life.

And I was miserable and sad and depressed. And why was I having this internal battle with myself? It was like there was two beings inside of me. The part of me that wanted to change and to be happy. And the part of me that was dragging me back to where I was before, which was heavy and overweight. And.

You know, it got to the point where life was just miserable and I had just gained back 160 pounds of what I’d lost. And I felt that there was no hope for nothing else for me to do. And I lost my purpose in life. And I took a bottle of sleeping pills and I took a bottle of painkillers and I took him and I said I didn’t wanna live anymore.

And I guess in all truth, I probably should be dead. I mean, I took him off Phil to probably kill an elephant and. I remember waking up. I remember I passed out in the chair and I remember waking up and seeing this light shining down on me from the sky, from above, from my window in my living room. And I had this very peaceful, surreal moment where I thought that actually I was, that it was that peaceful and that tranquil.

And then it’s like the lights turned on inside of me and I became alive, and I realized that my whole life I have been blaming everybody else for my problems and my troubles and my misery and my anger. And here I was. I’m, I’m a giant guy like you. I’m five foot six . I’d weigh 360 pounds. I had a 56 inch waist, almost as big around as I was tall.

And I remember getting out of that chair and saying, My life is gonna change. So I started studying how my mind worked. And realizing it was my subconscious mind. It was the master of everything. And I began to work on studying things and reading books on hypnosis and neurolinguistic programming, and I don’t know how many different programs from becoming, you know, certified clinical and the therapist becoming an LP practitioner to being a, um, a SVA graduate and all these other things.

And I started taking these pieces of these things that I learned. And I started molding them and shaping them. How so I can make them work for myself. And then I started to change. And you know, fast forward here I am, you know what? I dunno how many years later, but I’ve been, the weight I’m at now, I’ve kept off 180 pounds now for more than 10 years.

My life has changed and the voice inside of me changed too. And I took my real estate career dump. And this is the voice inside of me. I’m doing what I’m doing now is what I’m supposed to be doing, which is reaching out every day and helping people really discover how amazing they are and to tap into the resources they already possessed inside of them and create the life they wanna live and actually live it.

So that’s my, the short story. Yeah. And thank you so much for sharing that. And then I, I’m always curious to look at this concept of just what it takes for someone to produce change and to, to recap that here was this life experience and then the study of everything, hypnosis and NLP within the mind was, how do we recreate this?

How does this happen? Is that how you describe. . Yes. And, and, and, you know, and people need to know, they don’t have to reach that bottom, that low point Yeah. In their life to make change. Um, it’s understanding that we are creatures of familiarity, not, you know, was, um, think it was Virginia sat here that said that, you know, we’ve always been taught that man’s greatest need of survival.

But it’s not survival. Our greatest need is familiarity cuz we will do what we’re familiar with, even if it’ll kill us, as opposed to embracing change. So it’s, it’s, it’s really realizing that you’re not happy where you are. And then realizing that over a period of a long period of time, we’ve just reinforced these.

Behaviors and these habits inside of ourselves, and we’ve gotta change them by creating new pathways in our mind and then just reinforcing those pathways over and over again until they become your norm. So I’d love to hear your take on this because very often there’s this expectation that, Well, I’ve had this issue for this many years, so it’s gonna take that many years.

Or if not, something is long to solve it as well, though. Here’s a beautiful moment where it just took that moment. Of, to put it simply getting that second chance to go Enough is enough and I don’t need to live this way anymore. How, How much of, as you work with people, I know you do quite a bit of speaking though, you also do work with people on a one-to-one basis too, Those right.

Yes, correct. Yeah. So how much of that navigation towards that moment where something shifts into the mind and my language is getting that mind to the place where the old way of thinking, the old way of living just doesn’t work anymore. Mm-hmm. . And that’s when change occurs. . Well, I think that it doesn’t, you know, a lot of people think, Well, if I’ve been like this for 30 or 40 years, it could take me 30 or 40 years to change.

It doesn’t have to be that way. You know, if you’re working on changing an ingrained pattern, you have inside of you and you, but you, however you have focused attention and awareness of what you wanna change. Change can happen very rapidly with I said that the change happens two ways. In a highly emotionally charged state change can happen very rapidly, which is really what we use to hypnotic state for.

And then through repetition over and over, and I know I work with my clients, we work on both, you know, we work on a hypnotic state making rapid change, and then we work on creating a simple daily routine. Of actually writing things out in a journal, Things you’re grateful for, things you like about yourself, things you love about yourself, and what happens is writing those things out just reinforces that habit.

I, I, I think if it’s like working out, you can’t go to the gym one time, work out, have a perfect body. It’d be a fabulous, wonderful thing. It would save me a lot of time. But you can’t do that. You gotta do something all the time to keep your body in shape. And the same thing for your mind is you just can’t do something one time and expect your whole world to change.

You’ve gotta do something consistently on a regular basis, driving your mind and keeping your mind in the direction you want it to go in. . So that specific example of one day in the gym is one that even working with a weight loss client, there’s so much of that mindset often becomes this all or nothing thinking that.

Yes. Oh, oh, well, here was Thanksgiving and I had two PE pieces of pie, so all is lost. One of my, I’m. Talking with you today at the end of, uh, day five of a training course that I’m running, and here’s a student that worked with a friend for exercise motivation and how easily the mind of this individual went to, Well, I went to the gym three times, but then I didn’t, so this stopped working for me.

Right when here I am. Then again, there were you and I in Vegas a few weeks ago, and the gym of the hotel at the same time. But the, the moment of, Well, yeah, there’s the rest day and the phrase of one day in the gym isn’t going to change someone’s life. And likewise, one day of, let’s call it not as good eating, is also not going to change their.

I, I agree. Well, I think, and I’m also gonna speak for myself, but I used to be that way as many of the way wealth clients I work with, and I struggle with this, they’re perfections. Mm-hmm. . So they set up this unrealistic expectation. They’re gonna follow this program without ever varying from it. And in doing that, they’ve already said in motion the wheels turning that they’re going to.

And it may be the subconscious mind saying, You know what? We really don’t wanna do this, so we’re gonna set up an unrealistic expectation that you can’t follow through on. And then when you do have that one moment of weakness, I’m gonna show you that you failed because you were imperfect. And what happens?

You chuck all the hard work you did and you flush it down the toilet. Now, and I can remember, remember having a lady work with one time and she loves chocolate cake, and she goes, I’m never having it. I go, That’s really a dumb proposition, . I said, I said, Cause you know what? At some point you’re gonna have it.

And then all the hard work you put into this is you failed. The goal would be to say, food has no power over him anymore. And if I have a piece of chocolate cake, what’s the big deal? It’s not going to hurt me. It’s not talking to me. I’m not having a conversation. And it’s not, it’s not soothing me and being a source of.

And that’s when you know that you’ve accomplished what you wanna accomplish, you’ve overcome. Then we have unrealistic expectations. And I also think, especially I see it more in way loss. I see it in other things too. There’s a lot of times when somebody’s been heavy for a very long time. It seems to be that that value and belief system that being heavy is safe and loving and whatever else they’re getting out of it is very, very strong, and it’s almost as strong, if not as strong as a religious belief.

And so then when you go after it to try and change it, you get moments of kickback and resistance. . And that’s a bad thing. That’s a very bad thing. And what happens is, I don’t know if you find this in your practice, is that when people i’ll, I’ll tell my clients, especially working weight loss debt, at some point you’re gonna have a moment of resistance and you’re gonna be totally unaware of it.

And I’m gonna let you know when it happens. And that moment, it resistance could be something simple like they’ve been follow, you know, like I’ll give them follow to do for seven days in between our sessions and they’ll do it five days and then the six days says, Oh, you know, I don’t feel like doing it.

You’ve been doing it for this long, You know, you could take a day off. Or it’ll be, you know, I’ve been doing this for three weeks and I just haven’t lost 500 pounds yet, so this is not working and I’m gonna stop doing it. Mm-hmm. , And those are moments of resistance that if you. Push through and get passed.

They’ll end up going back to where you were and you’re so kind. Just mind in that instance, just really trying to push you back to where you were and keeping you from going where you want to. , which I love. The point about seeking that perfect outcome. That just isn’t a reality though. I, I’d be curious, There’s a phrase that I often grapple with, that there’s clear examples where this is absolutely the case, though at times.

I would phrase it that the community holding onto this belief system might not be using the best of methods where you’ll see different numbers. It takes 21 days to install a new behavior, 30 days. What is your thinking? You know what? I don’t think there is a specific number. Yeah, no. For some person it could be, uh, it could be a very short period of time.

You know, all that I know when I worked with on myself is that it didn’t happen overnight and I had to consciously. Make myself do the things that the subconscious work on a daily basis. Like one of the things I knew about myself is that I was really good at starting something and doing it for seven to seven days to two weeks, and then I would start to wane interest and start to fade off from it.

and I knew that this time going in. And then what I also knew is that I was really good at keeping my word. I was always instilled that giving your word was the most important thing. If you gave your word, you better do it. So it was just finding leverage. And what I did is the first time I started, you know, keeping a journal and making recordings for myself and listening to ’em is I made a contract with myself and signed it, saying, Okay, you’re gonna do this for the next 30 days, no matter what happens.

And at the end of 30 days, if you wanna stop, you can. Or you can renew for 30 days and if you renew, you have to finish the next 30 days. Mm-hmm. and I signed it and what it did is it kept me on track. It worked well for me. I know that like somewhere on day seven, day eight or nine, And I remember getting into bed and handwritten in my journal, and all of a sudden I go, Oh man, I forgot to write in my journal.

And of course, a little voice in the back of my head saying, Oh, come on, you’ve done it for eight days already. What’s the big deal for you? Miss a day? You’re doing so great. Don’t worry about it. But that other little voice on my other shoulder was telling me, You know what? You gave your word. You need to keep your word.

And I dragged my salary rear end out of bed and I wrote in my journal, and then it made it easier for me to do it again the next day. So that’s the perspective I come from. And, you know, is there, is it 21 days or 30 days? You know what, there isn’t it’s, it’s whatever it is. It could be years, it could be months.

It’s doing something to a point, like now I have my morning routine and I’ve been following it now. In fact, uh, October, this October will be 14 years. I’ve been following my routine. I just do it now like brushing my teeth. , it’s part of who I am. And it wasn’t always like that took a long time before it became that way, and that’s the goal is to get it where you just do it becomes part of who you are.

I go to the gym every day and people say, Oh, don’t you love going to the gym and working out? I go, No. I go, There’s days I don’t mind going there, and there’s days I absolutely don’t wanna go there, but it’s part of what I do and who I. and that just cancel lots of repetition. And also installing this picture in my subconscious mind of what I wanna look like and what I wanna feel like and how I wanna experience the.

That’s something that popped up with the client just earlier this week that he brought up the example. He’s in the office. There’s segments of his business that are starting to lag and he’s describing what’s going on. And I, the, the guy by the name of Derek Sys, Derek was the, uh, founder, CEO of a company by the name of CD Baby, which could best be described as iTunes.

Before there was iTunes and I may be. Paraphrasing here, but I believe the quote was, If everything in life came down to knowing the right strategies, we would all be billionaire CEOs with six pack ab. Right, which is hideously unfair cuz I believe Derek Ss is a billionaire CEO with six pack abs, though it, it’s that place where only knowledge gets us to a certain point.

So here’s this guy who’s in my office and here’s this chunk of his business that’s been lagging. He understands it’s not a strategy issue, it’s a him issue. There are things he needs to be doing and he’s just not doing them. And he brought up that exact example. . He goes, I’m in the gym this many times a week.

And he goes, There’s one specific thing that he goes, I don’t like doing the leg press. He goes, The way that I do it, the machine that I like, it’s a lot of setup. It’s a lot of get ready and I’m always dreading that moment, but I always feel better once it’s done. Mm-hmm. and he referenced that and that just became that perfect through line of, uh, this, this pops up.

I had a moment at one time where, Uh, a student of mine calls up and it’s a client who, and this is a rather specific example, that, uh, he has this almost PTSD style reaction when someone sings the Happy Birthday song, which I might have heard and went, I’ve never heard of that. But I’ve had the same with a client who, with the issue, with the, uh, with Jingle Bells basic story.

She’s in a elementary school production and she’s the lead elf. She’s supposed to burst out of this package and. Uh, be the lead and sing a funny song. Well, the scenery is stuck and she’s there freaking out, and they’re just vamping and repeating jingle bells over and over and over, and let’s call that an isc.

So the, the student calls up and she goes, I’m gonna suggest that he, that she now likes this song. , which I think that’s too far of a leap when there are things that we do that the easy example, uh, are there people out there who absolutely love and adore brushing their teeth? Yes, there probably are. Yet, for most of us, it’s that thing that we do because we know we should, we know we have to, we know the benefit of it.

And to fold in some of these strategies is how. I think it’s a counterintuitive strategy sometimes, but to take away the novelty of change, to fold things in as if that’s just how we’ve always done it, it still appreciate the benefit we get from it. Yeah. You know, what you’re saying makes total sense and what I find is, you know, people will do something for a lot.

Actually, you know what? I think a lot of people come when they come to work with. to have this idea that, okay, I’m gonna go see him and we’re gonna work a few sessions and I’m gonna be cured. I won’t have to do anything anymore. Mm-hmm. . And what happens is they don’t realize the commitment they need to make to making change.

And it, it’s, it’s an evolution. It’s a lifelong process. Like I, I, it reminds me, you start mentioning about business. I had a lady come to. And she owned a telemarketing business. She owned it for a long time and she was bored and her business was starting to wane and she was off track and she was getting lazy with her health and lazy with her business.

And so we worked for a short period of time and things started getting better and she went on her merry way. And about nine months later, I got a call from her. And she says, Business is crappy again. And I don’t, I’m not happy and things are miserable. And always my first question is, are you still following your daily routine?

And I will say in every single case, the answer is no. Yeah. And you asked them why. She goes, Well, I just didn’t think I needed to do it anymore. Everything was going great and I didn’t have to do it anymore. I was curious. And the rationale should be if everything’s going great, it’s cuz of the things I’m doing.

Why wouldn’t you keep doing it? Maybe even expanding those things and looking for new ways to stretch your mind and to expand the limitations you have so you can do even more and greater things or maybe go in a different direction. And I think part of it’s our society, you, we live in the world that everything is instant gratification.

You have a weight loss client I’m working with now. In fact, in our last session, he was upset that he only lost a pound. I go, Do you realize if you lost a pound every week, you would lose 52 pounds in a year? Or what’s wrong with that? It, But we live in the world where many this thing has to be. Now we have to have instantaneous spontaneous results or it doesn’t work, or we’re a failure.

So, so I don’t rewind the story back a little bit. So we have the origin story, we have the education of how to harness this and how to share it though to look at some of your, some of your resume here. Uh, regular appearances on the Howard Stern show, uh, appearance on Oprah Winfrey, co-writing a book with Jack Canfield and Deepak Chopra.

What was that journey from? Your own discoveries, your own transformations, your own education, to now becoming an advocate, a, a speaker, a practitioner of all this. How did that, how did that become viral and spread for you? Well, it’s interesting and it comes, it came about the same way that the work I do with my clients is, I find one of the most key important things for them is to have a vision, a goal, or a dream in their mind that they want to have.

They don’t have to worry about how they’re gonna get there or what the process is for them to reach that destination is they gotta have that destination in their mind. You can’t go on a great vacation unless you know where you’re going. So as I start evolving and changing myself, I created this first, I created this vision in my mind of how I wanted to look.

I remember creating this vision, and I would write it out every day that I have a strong, healthy, lean, attractive ule body weighing 175 pounds or less, and you knew exactly what I would look like, and I look exactly the way I thought I would in my weight. Now between 1 71 and 1 74, it really doesn’t ever change.

And then I wanted more. When I started working with people, these thoughts and ideas would come to my head, and I created this vision that in my life, I wanted to touch more than 10 million people. I wanted to help more than 10 million people in my lifetime truly discover how amazing they are and be able to live the life they’ve always wanted to live, to live the life of their dreams.

And when that became part of me, the wheels start to turn. And of course, you can’t work with 10 indivi, 10 million individuals in your lifetime. That’s not gonna work. That’s not gonna happen. So as it starts to get put out into the universe, I have no idea how this is gonna happen. Where I start getting opportunities, like an example is I’ve been a Howard Stern Lister, I dunno, for 25, 30 years.

He has 20 million people that listen to that show. And I got on the show the first time. But simply I heard one of the guys on the show was talking about, um, he, he’s friends with the husband of the Long Island medium and he was talking about people come back from their past lives cuz they’ve unresolved business and they were just chopping him to pieces on the air.

And so I said, Okay. So I was, I, There’s not a way to really call them. They don’t give you a number, There’s no nothing. So I go on their website and they have, Hey, do you have a comment about the show? So all they put in there was, wouldn’t it be really cool if we did a past life regression of this guy?

And by the way, that’s what I do. Here’s my name and my phone number if you want to, you can Google me. I left it. Didn’t think about it again in about, I don’t know, 10 days, two weeks later, I get an email from them saying, Hey, we’d like to talk to you. We wanna know more. And then what progressed from there?

Then I got on the show and the guy I worked with on the show, they didn’t give him any of my information. They, they didn’t want him to know who I was before I came there. And so he asked me, he goes, How did you get on the show? And I told him, he goes, Well, that doesn’t happen that way. He goes, We usually find somebody.

So, you know, I’ve been fortunate. I, you know, I did a program at Coast to Coast Radio the same way they found me. I don’t wanna say I seem to walk into things by accident. I don’t believe that. I believe that you really get what you attract in your life, and I seem to have people find me. I mean, I’ll even take it a step further is all right, we’re at Hypno Faults live and I’m teaching two programs there and my model’s always been, I wanna work with people one on one.

I’m not inexpensive for what I charge. I think I’m a great value for what I charge. And, and I speak and I sat in Steve, Dr. Steve g Jones one hour program, and I’ve always been hesitant to take recordings and put the other programs and sell ’em on the internet or on social media. And I sat through his one hour class and I said, You.

I guess that kind of makes sense to me. I need to decide, you know, is that gonna hurt my one on one coaching business or is it gonna strengthen it, or are the two people totally different? And then I decided I would stay. He had a two day program afterwards and I decided to stay. And the first thing that happened is, well, I call my airline and I call up and I say, Okay, I wanna stay two more days.

How much more is it gonna be? She goes, It’s funny. Goes the flight you wanna take home, which is two days later, is actually less money than the flight you’re going in. So I actually got a $35 refund for staying for two days, . Nice. Okay. And I sat through two days with 15 people and my first question to him was, is why are you here?

You’re making a, a tremendous amount of money. You’re very successful what you do? He goes, I wanna start giving back a little bit. I’m friends with Scott Sandlin and it would be, I wanna stop saying I want to do, and he was filming it. So 15 of us got two days. To spend with this guy who’s highly successful at what he does.

And all of a sudden the lights went on in my head and I made a shopping list. And it’s been, what, six weeks since the, the hidden, the thoughts live ended. And I’ve been going through this whole proliferation of going through learning how to use social media. Now. He was, here’s even the funnier coincidence.

I get this, um, email from Kevin Harrington, the, the Ginsu nice guy who’s all over the place. Okay. He’s one of the original sharks and he has this new thing called the, like the Quantum Entrepreneur Academy, and they’re giving it’s real expensive inex. They’re giving an inexpensive keys to get you in. It’s a $49 online video program by this young guy named Maxton, who is an expert at producing.

Um, ads on Facebook and how to use the analytics they have to produce ads that actually produce good returns on your money. So I’m looking at the videos. You can make comments on there, and he mentioned that if you wanna contact me, but if you want us to use your business maybe as an example, we would. So I email him, I tell him my story, story.

I’ve been on the Howard Stern Show and I get a phone call from him and he says, I’m Howard Stern fan. I just wanted to talk to. He goes, This could be a lot of. And I told him my story about which I, with Steve Jones, this is only a couple weeks after he starts laughing, he goes, I go, What’s so funny? He goes, The Quantum Entrepreneur Academy is a partnership between Kevin Harrington and Steve Jones.

Nice. . So the interesting coincidences of life. So, you know, we learned these new things and you turn ’em on inside of our head and if you are there to see them and you have, you know, if you can expand. Your awareness. I always say to my clients, the two most powerful things you have, well, besides patience and persistence, it’s becoming awake and aware of your thoughts, your feelings, and your emotions.

Cause the moment you are awake and aware of them, you have control over them and you can change them. And so here I am, I put this idea out. I wanna help more than 10 million people in my lifetime in the tools and the ideas. And the opportunities keep presenting themselves to. So, um, so that hits, I don’t think despite, that hits on a theme though, that I think across the board, too many people in this helping profession and not just hypnotist, the, the thought is that the one to one is the best scenario, which, which can definitely be defended and argued.

Yet there are people that are out there that the real opinion is that we are denying them the benefit of the process. By not doing the big speaking presentation by not producing the products, the programs. So Steve’s a guy that some people would have some strong held opinions of, and I’d be one of the many to say, go up to him and shake his hand, because there’s a lot of people that interact with hypnosis first, thanks to all these recordings.

people can be just as successful if sitting in the audience of a big seminar sitting at home with the headphones on or just playing it over their phone, that there’s this increase your reach mechanism that it all does tend to fold together. And from the business side of things, that positions us at the end of that funnel where people in this class that I’m training right now, there are people here because they’ve bought my smaller programs.

And now they’re spending eight days with me in Virginia. And likewise, yes, the opposite will occur. They’ve spent eight days with me in Virginia, and then they’ll likely spend around and buy some of the other programs. So it’s a win-win from all sides because we’re providing better value, better opportunities, and just getting that message out there in stronger ways.

I, I agree with you tremendously. What’s interesting is when I, I, I had a conversation with Steve in between one of the breaks in the session. I said, My biggest dilemma right now is if I start selling a recording online. Is that gonna take away from people that are gonna wanna spend several thousand dollars with me for one on one coaching?

And he said something that was made total sense to me. He says, The people that will only spend 30, 40, 50 bucks for an individual recording from you are not the people that are gonna spend several thousand dollars from you on coaching initially. They may end up, but the people that are looking to work with you one on one are not gonna substitute that one on one coaching to go by your.

Right, And don’t be afraid of it. And that was always my biggest dilemma is will I be diminishing my value as a coach one on one working with people? And the answer is no. And um, well, I mean, on a similar note, you mentioned the client that stopped doing the mo, the ritual stopped doing the routine because, Oh, I didn’t feel like I needed to anymore.

And granted, this is a client, Some people may have a different reaction to the story than I did, which was that I had taught her self hypnosis. I had taught her some very specific mechanisms, and her statement was, This is great though. I’d rather come to you every week for the next six months, and her statement drew the metaphor right away.

She goes, I know how to exercise myself, but I do better when the personal trainer is there with me coaching. I understand that. Yeah. So it’s how, what is, and it’s, some people would say, Oh no, you’ve created a dependency yet. She saw me for that six months. She launched the project she wanted to do, and I think I’ve seen her maybe twice since then.

That’s, that was like maybe three, four years ago. So it’s where we sometimes need that extra benefit, and it’s this place. I’d say respecting the client’s individual strategies. Now, granted, I, I was okay with that, not because she was willing to pay for it, but because that was her strategy. That’s what she felt would work best for her.

She had presented that, let’s call it a hypnotic contract, that this is what’s gonna work best for me. I understand that. I mean, I have, yeah, I work with all my clients, mostly on the telephone and most of them are out outta state from where I live. I’m out of the country and I’ve had people say, I want to come in and work with you.

I’ll fly in for a weekend and I’ll tell ’em it’s really not necessary. But from their perspective, they think it is and then they need to do that. So I get that. I understand that everybody’s different. Mm-hmm. and everybody has to process and learn and do things in their own way. And you know, we have to.

You know, it, it, you know, helping people, we have to learn sometimes that it’s not what we want, it’s what’s most important for them. If it works for them, that’s fine. So, I’m curious to ask this. We have your story, we’ve brought up several others as well. In, in all the years being in this environment of change, let’s put it that way.

Is there one specific client story that kind of stands out as the benchmark that, Wow, this stuff is powerful? Wow, this is incredible. I have a couple. Yeah. Um, . I mean, one is a fun story and one Wait. Here I have, I have, I have a gentleman I started working with. This is several years ago, and he came to me, um, It was a pain issue.

He has, He was, um, a battlefield EMT in the first Gulf War in the early nineties. An Operation Desert Storm, um, front lines. Uh, he was a medic. He was a frontline emt. He was wounded. Um, and he loved what he did. He came back, he became a website developer, but he was still a fireman. He lived in Arrowhead, California and he was a volunteer fireman.

And he and there, and, you know, on his free time and you know, he was a web developer and he loved what he did. He had a wonderful wife, had no kids. And several years ago, it’s gotta be nine, 10 years ago, he’s about, he’s two stories up on a ladder. And they’re fighting a fire, and the pressure builds up in the building and the building explodes and he’s blown two, two and a half stories off this ladder.

And he lands on concrete and he should have died. But he lived and he had damage. He had nerve damage to his spine. Into his legs and his life became ill. It was pain. He had multiple surgeries, even tried to put a pacemaker on his spine to control with electrical impulses, the pain signal that was being sent to his brain, and that didn’t work.

In fact, um, they moved to Chicago. for another surgery. There was a surgeon doing this different, very different, uh, unusual surgery. And of course it didn’t work. And so he came to me and he says, You know, I have to do something. I can’t take narcotics cuz I can’t think and I won’t live that way. And if I can’t do something to control this, I’m going to kill myself because I cannot live the rest of my life.

He was 40 years old. And so, you know, we always set a goal and you know, sometimes we think the most. Simple goal. We just take things for granted that we do in our life. So his simple goal was he wanted to be able to go out for a restaurant with his wife, and now here’s his day. His day at that time was if he spent more than 60 minutes on his feet during the day, his pain level would go up to a nine or 10 and stay that way for two or three days, and he’d be in agony on a good day.

His pain level was a three or a. And so his goal, his first goal was, I wanna be able to go out for dinner with my wife, sit down in either a booth or a chair in a restaurant, which I can’t do, have a glass of wine, have a wonderful dinner with my wife, look at my wife in the eyes and tell her that I love her.

I go, Wow, that’s, that’s something we really take for granted. That’s really pretty powerful. So we worked. and he was able to manage his pain and they went out for dinner. Actually, they went for dinner and they went to a movie afterwards, which is something he hadn’t done in years. And then in our next session he says to me, You know, I think I wanna do some more things than this.

So he had this idea that he would wanted to start updating his. Technology skills for building websites. So Adobe has a major office in Chicago and he called them up and he told them his story and they invited him to a training. And the training consisted of five days, eight hours a day, sitting in a classroom.

And he did it. And then they liked him and they invited him to advanced training, which was now he had to go into the city and they had an office in the city of Chicago. So involved him going to the train, taking the train into the city, and then walking almost a mile to their facility. Sitting in a classroom for eight hours, walking almost a mile back to the train, take the train back and go home.

And he did that. And his life is Fullen alive now. And he can manage his pain. It’s not always gone, but he can live with it. It’s manageable and he’s functioning in the world. And his story, he came to me one day, he used to come in once a while for what he would call a tune up, and we’re walking outta my office and he says to me, he goes, You know, if I could write you a check for a million dollars, I would write you a check for a million dollars.

And I encouraged him to do it. . He goes, he goes, But I can’t. And then he pulled out this medallion and I carried with me over. I go, um, the Saint Florentine medallion, which Saint Florentine is the, uh, patron saint, the fireman. He goes, We earned these medallions for doing heroic deeds. He goes, And I got this medallion for saving somebody’s.

And then he handed to me and he goes, Thank you for helping me save my life. Wow. And it was had to be one of the most moving moments I’ve had and probably the most impactful moment I’ve had in anything that I’ve done. So, and it had a lot of meaning. It still has a lot of meaning to me, which I love that because in so many ways it’s.

What are those things we can get back to that normal of doing? What are those things that I, I think is, as this has popped up as a theme this weekend in this course where they’re, they’re so focused as the new student on, okay, it’s someone coming in for some sort of pain relief and assuming we’ve gone all the appropriate channels.

It’s the what about that feeling? What about that feeling and. It’s this chicken or the egg moment of, as he’s now doing those things that he wants to do, the comfort is increasing, and as the comfort is increasing, he’s also able to do those things once again. So it’s that emotional. There’s a chiropractor who took my class a while ago and his, he said something one day that just kind of smacked you upside the head with how brilliant it was as the line was.

Uh, pain is inevitable. Suffering is. . Mm-hmm. . And I just, that’s just stuck as the theme ever since then of how is it that we work with somebody that there may be some things, as you mentioned, the pain wasn’t entirely eradicated yet here he is back in his patterns of life once again. Mm-hmm. , you know, I think it’s, I think it’s, it’s truly, it’s, I think it’s truly amazing what our minds could do.

And I think also we forget sometimes as practitioners that sometimes. , we get as big a gift from our clients as we give to them. And I’ve learned so many magical lessons from my clients and the experiences they’ve had that have touched my, my, my very soul in my heart that you just, that you would never expect.

And um, there’s some really neat experiences. So then moving forward, let me ask you this, what would you say excites you about this journey continuing? Oh, I got a lot of exciting things right now. Um, I am in talks right now with two different companies that produce, uh, TV brands, which would be info commercials on doing an info commercial other program.

and I have all these things that just seem to flow to me and, um, I, I’m very excited about the direction of my life and where it’s going in and all the fun things that are happening and all the important things that are happening even in my personal life that just. Strengthen me as a human being and as a man and as a practitioner.

And, you know, life’s an adventure every day. And you know, I have an idea where my Destin no, I have, I know where my destination is. Am I always sure how I’m gonna get there? No. And so these wonderful things pop up and what I’ve allowed myself to do is I allow myself to be open to listening to those things.

Sometimes they’re not the right things. Sometimes they are. But my ears are always open. My eyes are open, and whatever opportunity comes to me, I’m thrilled. And I’ll look at it with an open mind. If it’s right, it’s right. If it’s not, it’s not. And thank you very much. So, um, I look forward to all the wonderful things and who knows those ideas might change.

I’m changing the model for part of my business now that I never thought I would ever. I love the, Thank you again. So let’s, I’ve gotta ask the question though. I love the branding, the, the title of a neuro performance Ologist. , Yes. And what I found is a lot of times in the corporate world, there’s a very negative connotation to the word hypnosis.

Even, even the public, we think they were the guys, you know, with. You know, the pocket watch waving in front of people’s eyes and making them bark like dogs or clock like chickens. And that’s a fun part. I mean, stage hypnosis is, is entertaining and it’s fun. But it’s not what we always do when we’re doing for therapeutic or for motivational purposes.

And I found it several times. People were hesitant to bring me on board to speak for their company or for their organization because I was a hypnotist or because they had certain religious beliefs and connotations they had. Hypnotism was really a bad thing cuz they didn’t understand it. So I just changed the moniker of what I used.

And, um, I came up with that. I, I don’t know when I came up with that term, but it’s just, okay, it’s the brain and it’s about performing better. So I’m a neuro performance ologist, like doing a tuneup on your brain. I love it. So, so that’s where I came from. Yeah. And I love it cuz it’s something you’ve never heard before, but the moment you hear it, you go, Yeah, I get it.

Defines the direction moving forward. Well, Scott, this has been great. How can, how can people find you? , Um, people can find me online a couple ways. You can email me at scott ultimate visionary mind.com, or you can go to my website the same way. You can reach out to me there, uh, which is ultimate visionary mind.com.

And you know what, If people wanna call me directly, they can call me. They can, I’ll give you my phone number. They can reach me at 8 4 7. 3, 3 1 5 8, 4 8 and we’ll put all this in the, uh, show notes [email protected], links as well. And, uh, couple of videos over there too for you to check out to see Scott to action.

Uh, Scott, this has been phenomenal having you on here. Thank you for having me. It was awesome. Absolutely, and I’ll see you around. Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis podcast and work smart hypnosis.com. Jason Lynette here once again, and thank you so much For those of you at home, in your cars, in the gym, or where.

Ever you are interacting with this program, and of course, absolutely. Thank you once again to Scott for carving some time outta your very busy schedule to spend some time with us here today. The, the concepts that Scott shared there in terms of how we produce change, I, I love that as a concept in terms of thinking about it, that it takes just a moment to get the foot in the door yet.

Then from there, it takes. Respective strategies, behaviors to keep that congruent with us, to keep that in motion. I love the phrase that, well, you brush your teeth every day, so to do something for yourself, it’s how you often hear of this mindset of. Win the morning, win the day, start the day on your terms.

Do not begin the day in a reactionary mindset. And on a similar note, some of the most successful hypnotists that I meet in this profession have a passion towards their own ongoing education. So, You heard Scott tell his story of attending conventions and attending workshops, and I, I attended his and he, I’m very proud.

He was there attending some of mine as well. So this mindset towards continued education. And for that I’d share with you, hypnotic workers. Hypnotic workers is the entire digital access library. To my hypnosis trainings, everything from inductions to deepening strategies, as well as techniques for change that you just will not find anywhere else.

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