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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number 94. Golia Davis on energetic hypnosis. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business success. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Welcome back. As always, it’s Jason Lut here with another great hypnosis conversation, and chances are you’ve likely not yet heard of Gaza Davis Gaza, and I first met a couple years ago as she actually attended, uh, one of my hypnosis trainings that she had reached out to me and expressed an interest in learning hypnosis.
And as you’ll hear, hear the rest. History as ever since then, She has really truly jumped in, in terms of building up the skills of working with clients, learning the mechanisms of running her own hypnosis business, and actively now seeing clients, uh, whether on a one-to-one basis, a group format in her own home, through the wonders of the innerwebs and, uh, all wonder.
Things inside of this. Zalia is originally from Russia. She’s been living in Maryland ever since 2002, and what I love about her is this sort of no nonsense approach that she brings to her work. Something that I had noticed even back in the days of the training, just a straightforward nature to it, that as we work with our clients, it, it’s, again, you’re gonna hear themes inside of this conversation about.
Delving into the deep structure of what actually is going on with the client, how to better serve our clients and help them to create changes in their lives. And some really interesting insights as to the real value of producing content. She is a published author, Visit The Work Smart Hypnosis, uh, show notes in terms of this session to get a link to her book and links to her website as well.
So let’s jump right in. This is session number 94. Zalia Davis on energetic hypnosis.
Well, you know, I’m different from normal people and I really like entering altered state of mind is very important for me. To be able to do things that I do and I lo I don’t even remember how and when I learned it. This is something about what done. Yeah. Now, um, when people come to me for help, I try to teach them how to do that.
And I think I told you before when I, um, joined you for the course that I had trouble keeping people awake. Mm-hmm. , uh, like for example, I would do. A healing circle, and I’d have like 50 people coming and every one of them will fall asleep and it’ll be very, very difficult to wake them up. So through that experience, I realized not all of us is the same, and we need different approach when it comes to like meditation and hypnosis, and then, You know, what is the better way to learn things if not coming to a professional.
Mm-hmm. , that’s how I found you. And the hypnosis nowadays and even before is only a, a component of what you’re doing. Just to give some perspective here, you mentioned it’s part of other things. What are some of those other things that you’re doing? Hypnosis is a tool. Yes. The skill. Um, I, I do healing.
Mm-hmm. , I do energy. And, um, I do spiritual coaching, I would say, because when people get physical illness, disease, whatever problem, it’s already like a late stage of a problem. Mm-hmm. , it starts in our attitude and our beliefs and we create with our emotions and feelings, were created synergy, and only this time it manifests on the physical level.
So changing your body, working with a physical problem, although it might be helpful, but it doesn’t resolve the core issue, you have to go back much farther to change it, and hypnosis is very helpful, very effective. So then with the energy work that you’ve been doing, as you added the hypnosis into that, what would you say if anything opened up for you?
It changed everything. Like, um, even if I work directly with the energy with electromagnetic field and I can clear it, I can, so to speak, patch it up and person would feel better, but they will be back in a month or two. The reason why they had the ill illness is still there and hypnosis can resolve. So not just dealing with the present, but also in your perspective going in and dealing with the past as well.
Yes. So then let’s kind of run through this briefly then someone, someone is now working with you and whether they’re working with you in person nowadays, or I know you also do a fair amount of work via Skype. What’s kind of that journey that you’re going to be taking them through? Well, kinda, um, you have to figure out what their beliefs are.
Mm-hmm. and maybe just tweaking. That will be enough. Is there an example of that that you can share? It’s hard for me to categorize so many. It’s early. We’re all so very different. Um, it’s like, okay, for example, right now, and this is not something I imagine I will ever do, um, but right now, this moment, 90% of my clients are male.
Mm-hmm. and those are the males that have difficulties in the bedroom. Yes. Okay. And I’m like, um, Last frontier, because they’ve already been through different doctors, tried whatever options are there and nothing worked. Yes. This is why they come to me and um, and this is how I would actually say at the first appointment.
Do you want me to tell you sleep better and eat better? And exercise where you want a real answer. Ooh, I love that and. It’s like nobody likes what I say, but this is the true. When you are not living up to your full potential, you become an impotent. Literally. Do you, Do you understand what I’m saying? Yes.
Yes. When, uh, it’s not by anyone’s measurement, but you’re on, If you are not a man, you believe you can be. Your body reacts in different ways. You understand? Yes. And it’s interesting because in so many different issues that people would come in, you know, people are calling us as the hypnotist for the symptom, for the behavior that’s going on yet meanwhile, that’s very often a reflection of everything else that’s going on in their life in that moment.
Exactly, exactly. So we just go analyzing what’s going on in their. And it becomes very obvious why it’s happening. And if a person was raised certain way and certain beliefs were installed from the very childhood and there is a lot of conditioning going on, whether it’s religious, social, or whatever, in this particular family, there is no better way to peel all this conditioning limits and beliefs than hypnosis.
Yeah, the process goes very fast and very effective. Outstanding. So is there a certain route that, once you’re actually into that hypnosis session, just to get into some of the specifics here, is, is there a certain route that you’re often taking them on? Usually I would use their own language. Mm-hmm. , I did duplicate your forms.
Intake forms. Oh yeah. And I ask them to write things. And when I do hypnosis, I actually read the language. It’s like if a man says I feel like a fraud, um, I’m full of bullshit. Mm-hmm. , literally they would say like this, um, then I’ll use the same language in hypnosis. Um, let’s peel all this layers of bull.
Literally, Yeah. . And it works. Um, you see our, um, human being is like a only so much you can fit in of whatever it is, your beliefs, your um, energy, your talent, and you always wanna put something new, something better. But if there is no space available, you can’t do this. You need to clear old junk. Mm-hmm. . To create space for something new and better to come in.
Yeah. Which brings to mind a question that I’d love to hear. Your thoughts now that you’ve been, you know, actively working with people for some time now, um, is, is there a sequencing, I’m sure there’s also the client centered answer to this, but from your perspective, do we clear the past and then build the, build the map forwards the future?
Or do we start with the future and then clear up the past? Depends on the person. Sometimes they come and they’re so confused of where they are now and even what they want, they’re confused. And sometimes, uh, when they feel so lost, I think it’s easier to create a clear image of the future, of the what they want and take it from there.
Like creating, uh, an image of future mm-hmm. Of the perfect future for them. And then kind of going back, coding out junk and, um, Paves the pathway that will bring them to the future they want. Yes. So that as you’re working with your clients, I’m curious to ask, cuz I’m looking through, I’m on your website, uh, at the moment here now, and mentioning some of the other training that you’ve done, uh, some before, some after when we first met.
Um, how, how is it that, you know, we, we’d often use the phrase borrowing from Melissa Tier that have integrated hypnosis integrating. Several different modalities appropriately together. Um, how, how does the hypnosis fit into the energy work? How does the energy work fit into the hypnosis for you? Or are we all talking about the same conversation and just labeling it in different ways?
Um, I think just like a human being, we’re not like a flat slab of granite. We’re multifaceted diamond. Yes. And you know how many sides of you you are willing to expose and show to people? You know, the same with modalities. If, uh, if you are like, my goal is to help people heal, okay? And it doesn’t matter to me what tools I’m going to use mm-hmm.
So the healing would be that multi a diamond for me. If I have many, many, many size of it, then it’s better. Absolutely. Absolutely. So then, how is it that you’re spending most of your time these days? I know you see clients, uh, at the moment, correct me on those two different locations. Yeah, yeah. And at home and at homes, that’s actually my favorite.
Yeah. And I know you didn’t really approve that . No, no, I do. I love working from home. No, the, the, Now I have to defend. No, the brief version of it is, um, it, it’s something that could be done extremely well. However, uh, I’ve interacted with many who. Done it well, and I’m sure you’re doing it quite well.
There’s the brief anecdote of a hypnosis meetup at a local hypnotist home office, whereas we walked in, you immediately saw not only dirty dishes in the sink, which I’m guilty of leaving this morning myself, so can’t, uh, throw the rock too hard. Uh, but then also the spouse laying on the sofa watching TV and his boxer shorts, and I’m thinking, Oh yeah, welcome to the office
Um, yeah, so we can make it. I don’t do that. Yeah. , I don’t do that. Um, no. So I do have two locations, um, actual offices. I work from home, I do Skype and I also do group hypnosis. Mm-hmm. , um, at the local library. And I, uh, I go out and speak a lot. And actually that changed for me too recently, once I published the book.
Yes. Like, um, I’ll give you an example. Just a couple of, um, particular organizations. I wanted to get in and go speak and I was declined. And now that I have book published, they actually approached me on their own and they actually paying me to come in. Yes. So that’s kind of flipped upside down for me, and I’m happy about that.
I, I share a brief anecdote here, which, uh, by all means model this story or let’s use better language, uh, steal this brilliant piece of language. Uh, there’s a man by the name of John Saint Jermaine that back when I did the, uh, inaugural event in 2009, what John does is group corporate palm. He travels around and he’s working in a corporate environment at a some sort of event and has everybody hold up their hand and he does a reading of these people in a group setting.
So it’s fun and interactive. Okay, you have this line, everybody look at your hand if you have this line. And his, his introduction basically comes across as, of course, we’re talking about a field of study that there’s questions about that people would have concerns about. I’m paraphrasing here. However, I’d recommend reading some of the best selling books on this subject because you learn that through history.
It’s a model of character reading rather than predicting the future. I highly recommend these books. I wrote all of. Everybody hold up your hand.
which talk about a rockstar moment. . Yeah. So, so let’s rewind that back then. Um, so the decision to write the book to, and share with us the title of that and then, uh, what that’s done and some of the process and some of the results of it too. Please. Um, the title. Practical manual to pass life regression.
Mm-hmm. . And, um, I am a very practical person. When I read a book, I want the heart of it. I don’t wanna waste my time flipping through pages of just collection of stories or experiences I need. I need the real meat. Mm-hmm. , we’re all very busy. We don’t have time to waste. And this is what it, what I try to do that do in this book.
It’s very condensed information, very practical. You can literally open it and, um, actually apply it. To your business. Mm-hmm. , there is a step by step guide how to do past life regression and how to actually turn it into cash. Yeah. So was this a book written, uh, for the practitioner? Was this a book written for the general public For both?
For both. Even not a professional hypnotist. Can’t do that. Yeah. I describe process very thoroughly, which there’s something to be said about creating that hub, that creating that home base where everything then filters from, so, you know, share how that approach to giving speeches and giving talks has changed as a result of.
Not sure if I understood . You mentioned, you mentioned that before it was a little difficult to get the foot in the door and now that, uh, you could add author to the, uh, to the resume. How has that changed? Well, before I had to be very proactive and call myself and sometimes bag. Mm-hmm. sometimes offer to split profit, you know, different ways, and now I just have to answer phone when they call me.
Yeah. It’s very different. Nice little change there, . So then how is it just to kind of, uh, bring it together then? How is it that most people are tracking you down in terms of, uh, working with you as a client? It’s easier for them to find me online because, um, you know all about Google. Mm-hmm. my Amazon, and.
It links to my website and my name pops up everywhere. And then plus, I, I did series of videos that I put on YouTube and it helps my search too. Yes. And um, the videos are, it’s magic on its song. Mm-hmm. . Okay. I, um, you get to introduce yourself and show who you are before they even call you. Yes. And it’s very, very helpful.
I don’t have to waste time talking. To people that potentially are not my clients. Mm-hmm. , um, when they see me on videos or read my book, they kind of have an understanding who I am and whether I will be helpful to them. Yeah, you’re right. In many ways it’s conditioning them for that better response.
There’s, there’s something that I do in my phone consults these days, um, both with a student, both with clients where it’s just the simple question of. Hey, have you watched the videos on the page? And as soon as they say, I’ve watched all of them, you know, it’s a much more directed phone call at that point.
Uh, it, it’s also a mechanism that’s helping to condition that client to be our ideal client. Yes, I agree. And also like, uh, because I do not just hypnosis, for me it was very, very helpful. Like, um, people. Just stumble upon my videos on YouTube. Mm-hmm. and watch few of them. And then I get call. Um, I won’t come and talk to you like, and I, my normal question be, what, what is your issue?
What would you like to work on? And they’ll be, I just wanna come talk to you and they don’t care. Uh, what is my training? What modalities I. They just wanna come talk to me. Mm-hmm. , because know I have something that will be helpful to them, even though particular they can’t pinpoint. Which to pulls sort of a, a, a to highlight the business strategy that’s inside of that.
I get so many calls, I get so many emails from people that are going, How do I get up in the search engines? How do I get up in the results? And to hear this exact story right now of it’s about creating content, it’s about creating that material that people can interact with that logically guides to your information and guides them to that next step.
Yes, exactly. And also, uh, perhaps not focusing on marketing particular modality, but um, instead show who you are as a human being, right? What you about and market yourself, because there are many hypnotists. Why should they pick you in particular, you know? Mm-hmm. , which you’re right, that, uh, in, in this, in this mindset very often where we might have more than one skill, uh, I’ve seen, you know, some people in the wellness industries that are massage and reiki and hypnosis and a little bit of everything.
And it’s almost as if they’re giving their client a menu as to which service do you want? And you’ve heard me say this already, the phrase of if your client knew exactly what they needed and how to do it, they wouldn’t be calling you in the first place. Exactly. So it’s to position yourself as that, as in your case, as that healer, as that person, that practitioner who can choose the right tactics, the right approach at the right time to help them put that process together.
Exactly, Yes. And I did experiment when I. Started out, I experimented with all of this. I even, um, I did put up few different websites where I separated modalities and I even had, um, two separate websites. One particular for weight loss and another for smoking cessation. None of them really worked for me.
Mm-hmm. where marketed specific thing or a specific modality. It didn’t really bring me a lot of clients when I just, you know, put it aside and start to show who I am without worrying. If I’m going to perceive like a strange person. . Yeah. You would say, Woo. Um, that what actually brought me. . Well, I I’m on your side at the moment.
Uh, you know, I love the phrase, I like to be straightforward about who I am. It’s up to you how you’re going to take it as a friendly introduction or warning. Um, and this is where I, I should maybe publish this video. I think I sent it to you at some point. Um, I, I went off at a little bit of a rant, uh, online recently.
Because there’s a lot of videos on people’s websites. Hi, my name. I’ll make up a name. My name is John Smith and welcome to the John Smith Hypnosis. It is just so staged and it’s so uncomfortable as opposed to realizing that little lens is another human being and to talk to them. And at the same time, we’re putting that energy out as to who we’d like to work with.
And in some way we’re also, uh, putting that energy out as to who we’d prefer not to work with as well. Exactly. So what is it that you’re working on, uh, these days? Is it, uh, business as usual, is keeping up with the clients or are there new things on the landscape for you? Well, I have, I have few projects I try to focus on.
I, um, I’m working a new book, which is not about hypnosis this time. Mm-hmm. , um, I working on my higher. And I actually, because I work with so many men now, and like they may come with a physical issue, but there’s so much more behind it. And most of my clients are converted now to, um, like there’s so men that I worked over a year, they come maybe twice a month or once a month.
Mm. And it’s not just hypnosis, More coaching now. Yes. And from this experience I can see that men go through kind of similar stages in their life dealing with similar issues. So this new project I’m working on, I, um, wanna build a platform where Zoo Man can come together and support each. And where I would teach them as a group, the tools that can help them.
Mm-hmm. . So I’m kind of very passionate about that. Outstanding. Outstanding. So where can people find the online? I have at the moment, I have two websites, hypnosis ma.com, and oh, and I also, I teach tantra, yes, tantra wellness.net, and I have my YouTube channel, which is just under my name, Kozak Davis. And it’s it outstanding.
Well, it’s been great reconnecting with you. Thank you, Jason.
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