Podcast Session #171 – Karen Hand on Hypnotic Freedom


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Karen Hand returns to the show today to discuss the benefits of abandoning the use of hypnotherapy scripts when working with clients. She explains how being flexible in sessions and listening to a client’s needs can help ensure that the process will work for them. Karen also shares her favorite hypnotic “magic words” and shares examples of how we can use them in client sessions.

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Karen is an award-winning certified hypnotist, instructor, NLP Master Practitioner, and EFT Facilitator. She is the author of the book Magic Words and Language Patterns: The Hypnotist’s Essential Guide to Crafting Irresistible Suggestions, the first book in her Scriptless Hypnosis Handbook series. She has a private practice in Chicago where she specializes in helping clients with pain management, weight loss, and overcoming fears as well as teaches hypnosis classes year-round.

“The day I realized I didn’t have to have all of the answers – that I had to listen and be present with my client – was the day that I really felt independent. I really got my freedom.” – Karen Hand

  • How giving up the use of hypnotherapy scripts saves you time and improves sessions with clients.
  • How getting your client’s input results in more successful sessions for them.
  • Bypassing the “Yeah, But Factor” and allowing the conscious mind to observe what is taking place during hypnosis.
  • Karen’s techniques for helping her hypnosis students build flexibility within their practice.
  • Karen’s favorite “magic words” and examples of how she uses them with clients.
  • Why “because” is such an effective “magic word.”
  • The importance of remembering that clients add their own meaning to what you say to them.
  • How practicing language patterns and “magic words” outside of your client work can help you hone your skills.
  • The importance of new hypnotists learning to laugh, relax and be present.
  • The moment that hypnosis really occurs.
  • The meaning of transpersonal hypnosis.

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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number 171 Karen Hand on Hypnotic Freedom. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business six. Sets. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Because you’re listening to this program, you can discover unlimited ways to easily and naturally empower your own hypnotic language patterns.

Hey there, it’s Jason Lynette, and this is launching the day after the 4th of July after Independence Day here in the United States, though for everybody else in the world. Happy July 5th, and I specifically reached out to Karen Hand to come back on the program. Once again, Karen’s a previous guest on the podcast out of the Chicago area, and if you’re familiar with our ongoing gag, she is my favorite hypnotist.

Don’t tell the others. And I specifically reached out to Karen and. For the reason of looking at our skills of expanding our abilities as a hypnotist, that this concept of as we’re getting started, scripts are that necessary tool sometimes to begin to build up that confidence and discover the mechanisms of hypnotic language patterns.

My personal catch phrases that we don’t need anymore scripts, we need transcripts, or at least the ability to modify the scripts in such a way to learn how to customize to the individual. And quite honestly, there’s a lot of chatter around scripts being good or bad. I think the real mindset is if you always look at them from the perspective that this is one example of one thing that could have been done with one client.

And as you have that. One client in front of you to recognize and again, discover the ways that you can easily and naturally customize to them. Do you see a trend that’s possibly beneath the language that’s here right now? Uh, Karen in this recording actually made it a point to say that she wasn’t there to necessarily plug her book, so I will do it for her.

It is phenomenal and for just about $15 US, or if you’ve got Kindle Unlimited, you can actually check it out for absolutely free. Karen’s book is Magic Words and Language Patterns. The Hypnotist Essential Guide to Crafting Irresistible Suggestions. And what’s great about it is it gives you the natural formulas to start to.

Really work in that improvisational in the MO in the moment kind of way with your clients. So to be fully calibrated to your clients and have that ability to expand your skills during and after, and even throughout the experience well after the sessions as well. So we’ll link to that over in the show notes and I will mention that in addition to the dialogue you’re about to listen to, Karen put together a handout that we’re gonna make available to you.

So if you’re listening online, head over to work smart hypnosis.com/magic words and make that all one word. So work smart hypnosis.com/. Magic words that’ll redirect over to the show notes for this specific session, and that’s where we can get Karen’s list of the top 20 Magic Change words and patterns, which I’ve personally pulled this document out at times just to experiment with it.

And you really can so easily vamp and freestyle your hypnotic process while expertly customizing to your client. So check that out [email protected] slash. Magic words. That’s where we can get Karen’s free resource and learn more from her as well. I’d also encourage you to check out hypnotic essentials.com.

This is a live training experience. That’s gonna be myself and James Hazelrigg, and for those Seeking certification, you can get certified as a certified professional hypnotist with the I C B C, the International Certification Board of Clinical Hypnotherapist, James as an expert storyteller, and the two of us are teaming up together to teach.

Or organic mechanism of hypnotic trance, utilization of phenomenon, and the customization to the individual. So if you’ve found yourself stuck in getting stagnant in your process, or if you are brand new to hypnosis and wanna learn the strategies behind two working pros with full-time practices, this is the training event for you.

It’s happening in the Washington DC area in September, 2000. Teen and you can find all the details [email protected] And with that, let’s jump directly into this outstanding, natural and, uh, wonderful, I’m missing outta the language here. Here we go. This is session number 171 Karen Hand on Hypnotic Freedom

It’s very interesting that clients, um, want magic. And I don’t care how much we tell them that we don’t do magic. They still want magic or expecting magic. I had a client a few months ago who went through the screening process. She knew what it was all about. She knew what she wanted. She came in. We had our first session, we did some convincers.

She went into hypnosis wonderfully. She had a great time. She came back for a second session and in, in her second session, she said, Now this time. I just want you to do your voodoo on me and then send me home and I’d like you to put that on tape please. Yeah. So that I can listen to it over and over. And I politely reminded her that we’re not doing voodoo here, that what we do here is you do and she, uh, so any script I might have prepared, anything that I might have prepared for her.

Went out the window. Mm-hmm. because even though she had had a session, she was fully schooled in what we were doing together and that this is a dance that we work on together. She flipped and said, Just do me. Yeah. Oh, if only we had that much power. Right. I love the element of, inside of that story, of still bringing in the convenors, bringing in these magical moments.

Yet still inside of that, uh, I love moments where we discover that we both use similar language yet in different ways that my phrase for years has been, it’s a dance and both of us are leading . Okay, well, I lead first exactly. I, and turned it over to them. Right? , I play more of the Dancing with the Stars game with my clients.

Well, I mean, it’s where I, I’d edit the phrase of all hypnosis is self hypnosis, and I think. Current stance on that is all hypnosis. Is self hypnosis eventually, right? Yes. Perfect. Yes. I’ll steal that one from you, Jason. I steal a lot of good stuff from you, by the way. It goes both ways. You’re my favorite HY test, but don’t tell the others

Yeah, I know. I feel the same. I love you most I. So curious to ask, cuz I know this is something that we’ve chatted about with before, uh, but just this ability to build a greater flexible nature inside of the process. Yes. Uh, what, what’s been kind of the approach over the years of really refining that style to really be in the moment, in the experience and let it become much more fluid and flexible?

I’ll be honest with you, it took, it took, um, a couple of years to really. get familiar to really be comfortable with the ability to just go on the fly. Mm-hmm. , because even though I just gave you a great story, and I’ve been doing this for almost 15 years, so even though I gave you a great story about a, you know, the client had been screened, they knew what they were doing, and yet they still wanted me to do the Voodoo.

Even though I’d taken certification, and even though I knew what it was all about, there was still a part of me that wanted. The magic that I knew that somewhere in those scripts there were magic words, and if I didn’t do the whole script, I might miss the magic words. It, it was very confining and it took a lot of time.

Because I, as I screened clients, I had to not only figure out what they wanted, but prepare something ahead of time and get everything together and in order. And I, I remember using, you’ve probably seen and probably have used at some point, Jason, that, uh, Big Red Book. Yep. Uh, a hypnotic metaphors and scripts or whatever it is, and I , I can remember my first year going through and thinking, Oh, this is perfect.

And then if I go from here and go to page 1 49, there is a paragraph that would go great there. And then if I flip over to page 2 42 and I would have all of these post-it notes in the book, flipping back and forth, it was time consuming. It was arduous. It just didn’t work because as we were talking here, you are probably already aware that I said a part of me wants this and a part of me wants that.

Boy that can change up a session very quickly if only there was a technique that perfectly . That’s right. Someone out there just find something for us and we’ll, we’ll maybe Wonder Day. You know, but on the phone or in the, in a in a conversation, they may not ever say anything like that. And then at one moment the light bulb goes off and, oh, now we’re doing parts work.

We’re not doing a script. We’re doing, I, I heard it, uh, called transpersonal hypnosis. I don’t know if you call it that, but, uh, a few weeks ago. . I was talking to a woman who called it transpersonal hypnosis, and I said, Well, explain that to me. What is that? And she said, It’s where you talk to the clients, you had them interact and, and talk back and forth.

And I said, Oh, then I do transpersonal hypnosis. Got it. Mm-hmm. . But having the client’s input rather than just us telling them what to do, I think is so much more effective. And I’ve about come around to the idea of hypnotist should stop giving suggestions. We shouldn’t even give, although do you know my big Red book story?

No, . Oh, I’d love to hear it. I’ll make it brief cuz a lot of folks have heard it. Uh, woman comes into the office and she’s in for something extremely specific. She has to testify on the stand for something that the neighbor did and no issues. Public speaking. She’s a school teacher and speaks all the time, yet first time ever in court and she is freaking out.

Which, step one, find a script for that. So Right, she’s in the office and. She’s telling the story that she saw someone else quit smoking 30 years ago. He’s since passed away, and you’d be a fool not to ask. What did you do in the session? And oh, he was wonderful. We talked about my smoking addiction and then he reached up on his shelf and he grabbed a big red magical book and he put two little post-its in there and he read me from that magic book, and I tell you, I haven’t smoked ever since.

Yeah. I take a chance and I reach up and grab the Hammonds collected metaphors. Yes. And she lights up like it’s Christmas morning and Oh good, you have it too. To which I go, I know exactly where it is. And set the book on the shelf and close your eyes and run the process the same interactive way I normally would and maybe got called out at the end cuz she goes, That was amazing.

How did you read all of that? Because it was a very interactive session. It’s like, oh, it’s, it’s more of an outline, uh, Right. . Right. Well, you know, I think that’s wonderful. I think now I want a ery, I dunno if you know, if you know, um, Wicked. Yes. The, the play wicked. Uh, but they, they use the ery magic talking to, Come on.

Yeah. You’re, you’re right, you’re right. Uh, I do have a magic. I have a couple of magic wands in my office that I pull out occasionally. I even have a little glitter that I will sprinkle on them once in a while if they want fairy dust. But, um, but I haven’t, I haven’t yet produced a ery. Now that I’ve heard your story, I’ve gotta come up with a ery.

Mm. Yeah, so I can pull that out and do the magic spells and, and you know, that is something that we can do too. I mean, if the, I think we’re on the same wavelength, Jason, when we talk about the client will tell you what they need, what they want, That was a beautiful story. You told and, and you were right there in the zone with her and you picked up on that and you pulled out the magic book so that she could feel, so that she could believe.

This was going to work for her. And boy, isn’t that the moment that hypnosis really occurs? Well, it’s the, the moment that there’s a catchphrase that I keep coming back to nowadays of, uh, and, and to use the word in a very positive way, Let’s go placebo on techniques that actually work well. Right? Let’s put filters, let’s put suggestions on top of suggestions.

Here’s the process. They say, Part of me wants this, Part of me wants that. Right. Well, the fact that you say that means that now we can go and complex equivalents the heck out of this situ. Exactly how much jargon can we throw into that sentence? That’s right. Yeah. I had a client who, uh, I had a, a man who called me one day and said, um, can you change taste bud?

Have I told you this story before? Do you have taste? No. No. He asked, Can you change taste buds? And I said, Well, what do you mean? And he said, Well, I saw a stage hypnotist last night, and he changed taste buds. He gave people lollipops and they were enjoying them and then he changed their taste buds and said they tasted like poo and they all spit ’em out.

And I said, So let me get this straight . You want every, you want everything to taste like poo? And he said, No, no, no, no, no, no. But I, I’m Catholic and we’re about. To go into L and I wanna be able to eat fish on Wednesdays and Fridays. And my wife’s favorite food is fish. She likes a fish restaurant that I’ve never been able to take her to cuz I just can’t stand it.

Can you change my taste bud so that I can like fish? And I said, Absolutely. Come on in. Mm-hmm. , he’d already given me everything he needed. He needed some stage show magic. Yes. And thank heavens I’ve taken a stage, show class, so I was able to give him some of that magic. I stuck his fingers together and I made his arms stiff and rigid.

Steel rod. You know, I, I did several things with him and we changed his taste buds. Now along the way I also did a little, um, age regression back to cause and we discovered that his mom never really did make him eat that fish when he was seven. He had a choice and he could have put ketchup on it and made it taste better to it.

Giving him those options helped him change his taste buds. And after the session that night, he texted me from a bonefish grill, a. Fish joint said he’d ordered tilapia and loved it. Nice. It. I didn’t have to look, By the way, try to find a script for Change My Taste Bud, so that I’ll like fish Tilapia is actually page 140 of the Red Book

That’s right. It’s right after the swordfish ca It’s, it’s alphabetical. Karen, come on. That’s right. He was a great, uh, he was a great testimonial. He sent me lots and lots of clients. Well, here’s the beautiful thing inside of that too, that. You know, and I hear this dialogue at times of this technique versus that technique and, you know, my, the phrasing that all these techniques are good, they’re only as good as we actually put them into use.

And here’s a moment where, again, they came in, they gave you that hypnotic contract right? In that moment. Absolutely. And rather than going, Well, I, I know better. You know, here’s another strategy, right? No . Here’s what’s already gonna work with. Well, and I’ve heard, I’ve heard some, uh, trainers or hypnotists say, Don’t listen to the client.

Their conscious mind doesn’t know anything about what’s going on. Don’t even listen to their conscious mind. Just get ’em immediately into hypnosis and let their subconscious mind do all the work. That’s the message, and we’ll call you back as, uh, I have a landline at home, and that’s where we’re recording

Well, good. I’m glad that you’re getting other calls. I don’t mean, Hey, Kate, edit this out. . How’s that for editing on the. Good. Or even in it’s entertaining, they just hung up. Um, yeah, listening to, you know, what they come in with, and again, it’s where their, their representations, they’re phrasing around it.

It’s whether it’s conscious or unconscious. There’s still metaphor to it that we, you’ve got a dark parking dog as I’ve got the phone ringing. We’re on good track here. But here’s the experience of they’re coming in and whether it’s literal, whether it’s figurative, it’s still part of their map of the world.

And to use that as part of the process. Let’s not shut out their conscious mind. After all, it was their conscious thinking that got them to call you in the first place. Mm-hmm. . Let’s, let’s incorporate that. Let’s make, let’s do the whole mind, all of it. Conscious, subconscious, unconscious, super conscious. I don’t care how you view it, let’s use all of it.

And, and I don’t tell my clients that we’re gonna have to knock ’em out or get their conscious mind out of the way either. I don’t believe that. I believe their conscious mind can watch and participate as much as it wants and be on board all along the way. So I don’t want, It’s the bypassing of it, not the deletion of it.

That’s right. That’s right. It’s, it’s the, I like to call it the yit factor. Ya, at this, ya At that, I like to bypass the yit factor. And maybe that’s lodged in the conscious mind. I don’t know where they’re, they’re storing. , but that’s what we wanna do is go get past that yell, but this yell, but that disagreement and have them believing, Yes, I can do this.

This does make sense for me. And there are lots of ways to do that, that incorporate all kinds of great techniques. But I haven’t yet found a script that does it all. And when I got my independence from Reliance on Scripts, Set off the fireworks. Mm-hmm. because it made everything so much easier and it saved me.

I had, I had freedom from homework too because I, I didn’t have to do so much prep work. I didn’t have to, um, prepare everything ahead of time. I just put the Jason Ette, uh, beautiful emerged script. Um, ego strengthening emerged script in front of me, and I’m good to go. Awesome. So I’m curious though.

There’s a, there’s a place that we have to start from that we have to learn something before we can forget it. Uh, we have to get, you know, kind of awkward at it first. I love the catchphrase that sometimes there’s something that takes a few years to be bad at it first before we can actually be good at it and, Right.

Uh, I’m always recommending, uh, though the last 10 minutes are slightly questionable for, uh, reasons of who he interviews. But there’s a documentary on Netflix, uh, called comedian. Whereas Jerry Seinfeld going out and workshopping new material. And yes, the last 10 minutes is him and Cosby. But we’ll set that aside for now.

Uh, but to look at, you know, what, in terms of the hypnotist getting started, you know, it’s where there could be the training wheels of the written scripts, some things to model. Uh, I like transcripts more than the scripts. Have you found specific strategies that help to shortcut that in the learning for the hypnotist to build that greater independence within their method?

You. Uh, years ago in, in a past life, before I was a hi test, I was, uh, a radio personality and a, uh, I taught at a university. And when I taught radio writing, I was a teacher. I over from that, the only thing you’ll be able to get these people to write is a complete sentence. You’ll never be able to get him to write a whole bit or a whole newscast because it’s just too much for one.

Mm-hmm. , Well, I had ’em writing complete sentences. They were college students, for heaven’s sake. I had ’em writing complete sentences in the first week. They were writing complete scripts and complete bits by the end of a semester course. I think it’s how we view it. So one of the things I help students do early on is yes, we start with some script work so that they have something they could hold onto and, and feel comfortable with, but then we start varying off of that very, very quickly.

And when we turn, when we take it out of the realm of being serious into the realm of being fun and a game and a listening exercise, it becomes so much easier. I think it’s so much fun to watch a student have that light bulb moment when they realize they don’t have to be the wizard. If they will sit back and listen to their clients, their clients will tell them everything they need and they’ll know the exact right technique to do.

A part of me wants this, a part of me wants that. Let’s have a parts party, or they say, If I knew then what I know now, and suddenly, I mean, it’s where, as much as there’s a polarizing conversation around regression, that’s where I’d point out that my whole approach to that is that, you know, maybe a few moments, if even that is the quote, find the cause segment.

My whole reason of the regression is getting to the place where now they’re doing direct suggestion hypnosis on themself. And right. No matter how clever any of us think we are, what they’re producing in that moment is gonna be so much bigger. I mean, here’s a session in the office yesterday that he came in for this one thing, but oh no.

While we’re here, he’s just cleaning up everything else as well. He’s continuing that story of where everything else needs to go, and that then becomes the catalyst of things. I can now fold into other strategies, other things in that session, using his model of the world, his words. And, you know, there, there are other ways to do it, like playing with Metaphor as an example or stories.

Um, one doesn’t, one doesn’t really need a script for, um, the little boy who cried Wolf, right? Mm-hmm. , can you tell me that story? Do you know that? Do you know? Yeah. Old story that boy, he cried wolf. He cried wolf. There was no wolf. He cried wolf. There was a wolf, but no one came the end, right? did you the script for that, and it ended happily ever after for everyone but the little boy.

That’s right, but you didn’t need a script for that. And that’s one of the ways we do it, is we talk about the things that we already know. And when I demonstrate, uh, on a, on a student, or even as I’m teaching them, I’m telling them lots of stories and I’ll stop periodically and say, Do you think I scripted that out?

It just came to me and I told you what I was. We’re just having a conversation and those light bulb moments of when they can learn that. Now I do teach them magic words and language patterns to help I, I, I give them some very, very, very basic language patterns and magic words that they can sort of play with to write their own scripts as we practice in class.

In. In order to do that, they’ve got, they’ve got a list of language patterns and words, and they fill in what their study partner has given them to fill in. And it’s a game. It becomes a game. We round robin it. We do it in all sorts of ways where it is a game, and once they start laughing about it and having fun with it and seeing that it’s not really all that serious, it’s a lot like having a conversation with a good buddy or a good friend or playing a game.

It demystifies it a great deal. I think, you know, I think hypnosis is mystical for the general public, but I also think it’s, it’s a very, um, scary or a cult almost kind of thing, even for hypnotist. And when we can take that out of there and say, You know what? Relax, relax, What we do is fun and easy and everybody can laugh, then I think it makes it easier for every.

So you’d dangled an amazing carrot there. What are some of those magic words? , You know, my favorite magic word, I don’t know about yours, but my favorite magic word is because mm-hmm. . Uh, I love, I love the story behind, because, um, you probably know what, back in the, uh, seventies at Harvard, there was a. Uh, sociologist doing some research on the human mind, and she had her interns go out to the, the library at Harvard then had one copy machine.

That was the olden days when we didn’t have scanners and that kind of thing we had to do if they had a copy machine. And so there was a long line, often at the co, the one copy machine, they’re in the library, Harvard and this profess center interns out to see if they could cut in. So it was a three prong study.

The first was, uh, I had to go out and ask can I cut? And about 64% was let him cut in line to make a copy. Nice kids at Harvard. The second thing they had to do is give him a reason. Can I cut? Because I’m running late, 95% of the. Let him cut in line because they had a reason. And the third part of the study was to say the word because, but not really have a good reason.

Can I cut because I need to make copies. Well, everybody in that line needed to make copies or they wouldn’t be in that line. So you didn’t have anything press more pressing than they did. Can I cut because I need to make copies. 94% of the people let ’em. 95 with a valid reason 94. Because they said because, So that word is magical because everything that follows it is real, is a valid reason.

Now, you wanna talk about cutting through the conscious resistor or the Yeah, but factor that word, because magically skips over that conscious resistor because the conscious mind is already used to hearing the reason following that word because, So another magic words. Looking at putting that into use here for a few examples.

Um, you know, it’s where many people do the whole strategy of bringing along any remaining cigarettes to the first session. We’re gonna have fun with those, which is my phrasing of that, which is incredibly vague and builds to them moment where they’re throwing them up and I’m able to branch the entire session off of the fact of, you know, you’ve thrown them out and because you’ve thrown them out, that now means this because you’ve thrown them out.

That now means that. Yes, that’s exactly right. Or if you are a person who does like to regress to cause as an example and you do a, I like regression to resources too, by the way. Even better than regression to cause. But that’s a different conversation I think. Yes, regressing, Once you’ve done the, the age regression work and everything that you’re doing along that, it’s wonderful to say, And because you have had this experience today, these changes will be easy, automatic, and natural.

So you’re giving them a reason why they just went through all of this stuff and what it’s going to do for them. You throw in that little word right there because you’ve experienced this, and now that you’ve experienced this, you will have a great day because it’s what you want. These changes will be easy because it’s what you want.

Well, yeah, that’s why they came in, right? . But you throw that in and it settles. Right there. Beautiful. So those are some ways to use that, uh, and is the great multiplier. You string a bunch of ands together and you’ll do this and you’ll do this, but is the great, um, eraser, everything that comes after the word, but it, it cancels that everything that came before it, the word butt cancels out everything that came before it.

Um, I chair my entire intake process. Hinges around, just to backtrack for a second, hinges around the word, because that so often, here’s all the reasons that they’re in the issue. Here’s all the challenges that have been there. And it’s about flipping that because that, well, because of this issue now, this is why it’s even easier and because this is there, this is why it’s even easier.

So it’s the quick story that years ago, my 10:00 AM and my 12:00 PM had the same story. I’m now retired and I wanna lose. Yet. For one, the, because was that this is gonna be hard and the other one’s going, This is gonna be easy from the same catalyst, right? Yes. So using whatever elements are there. So you know, oftentimes here’s the client who’s going through other things at the moment, they’re coming in for the change, and it’s about flipping that because, And using that as the strength rather than the weakness.

Yes, yes. , all of that is what does give it magic. So there is a little bit of magic in what we do, but. Artistic magic, I believe. Now there’s another, the, the great one word induction. Do you know the one word induction? I do, but I like it when you say it . Imagine. Imagine. Just imagine. Because that automatically let’s your conscious mind off the hook because it doesn’t have to be real.

You’re just imagining. . Imagine. Imagine that you’re successful. Imagine you fly over the rainbow. Imagine that there’s a gold, a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. We’re all into imagining, and then there’s the great forward induction once upon a time. Mm-hmm. . But those are just, just semantic differences.

Uh, so those are some of the magic words. The, the, the words can, can automatically put the subconscious mind into, um, a softened place. It can put the subconscious mind focusing on space or focusing on time, or, or doing whatever you tell them to do. Realize is a great one. Notice. Those are two great words because they’re focusing the subconscious mind.

When you say notice something, they will be hyperfocused on whatever you say afterwards. Notice that now that you’ve done this today, you will have success because it’s what you’ve wanted all of your life. So those are just taking some of. Magic words and s string them together with what the client put in there is their benefits.

It’s a great way to adlib your way through something or it’s a great way to write your own scripts. If you wanna write your own scripts, write your own scripts. It’s gonna take a lot of time. I don’t, I’d wanna work. Let me see. A friend of mine does work Smart hypnosis. Hmm. Will never take off . You know, Work smarter, not harder.

That what it’s all about. . No. I love the mindset of, again, having these words to branch off of. I I flash back to the old improv game. That was the, the scenes from the hat of here’s the words, and the difference is we’re allowed to use these over and over. And because you’re here today, you can realize that this is that turning point and just discover how easy it is to make these changes now.

All of those. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. . I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. So one of the games that I play with my students when we’re first learning this, is I give them a list of words and, and I’ll, I’ll give them a sample client. The client came in and said this, this, this, this, this, and this. Write these things down.

Now we’re gonna go around the room and everybody’s going to throw out either a language pattern, mixing in some words, with one of these concept. . And as we go around the room and do that, it starts to get funny and it starts to get easier and easier as we go. And students stop focusing on what mistake they’re going to make and start focusing on just having fun.

And it turns out I, several times now that I have done this exercise in classes, it turns out that as they hear other people make their suggestions or form their pattern, they’re realizing. There’s no right or wrong way to do this. The client is going to do their own processing. Anyway, I had, uh, I did a, a class recently for, um, Cheryl Elman and Cheryl and Larry Elman.

And, uh, there was a student in the class who, English is not her first language. She’s, I believe from, um, and I did a, um, a Wizard of Oz kind of metaphor as I was talking to them, and she didn’t know the Wizard of Oz. Miraculously. Some people don’t. She didn’t know the Wizard of Oz. But when I, I said, and. It your home, it’s in your backyard.

She, she latched onto the word home and it gave her a whole vision of what she wanted in her life and what she was going to do to create that vision in her life. So in her case, the magic word for her was home. I couldn’t predicted that. But what I did predict, That the client, student, whomever, will do their own processing and pick out of that what they want, and anything they don’t want, they’re just gonna cancel out anyway.

Well, what’s the power of using this language that is more vague in terms of letting it become their experience? Rather than I know exactly what this is, I know exactly where I have to take you, or, Right. Oh, this issue always is there because of this specific thing that letting it have that room, that air for them to process the experience rather than dictate it all, step by.

That’s right. That’s right. A person is able to kind of let go and just let it happen. Sooner or later, we all do it and if you relax into it, listen to your client, then you can feed back to them what they most need. I just threw out three or four language patterns right there in our row. I feel like what you did there, it’s, Yeah, it sounded like I was really saying something didn.

because you were putting your own meaning to everything I said. Well, the, I said the more that people use these strategies, the more they realize that they have the skill already to jump in because this knowledge is already there inside of them, easily. . You can use it automatically, can you not? Yes,

So, uh, you know, it’s, it’s a matter of doing the dance, getting into the zone. I don’t know how people do hypnosis if they’re not in the zone with their client. I know that I have had, um, more than I can count clients who after the hypnosis session will go, Oh my God, it’s dark. Well, I’ve had my eyes open through the entire session with Windows blinds open and didn’t realize that it was getting dark or that it started to rain, or that it started to snow, or whatever other kind of climactic change might have happened during their session.

Because I’m in the zone with them and with that client. If you’re doing that dance with your client, if you’ve got some ideas about how, how to help them, which they have already given you, they gave you when they walked in, then go with that. , go with that flow and give your client the room to process. The day that I realized that I didn’t have to have all the answers was the day.

I absolutely loved what I do. Up to that point, I really liked it a lot and I wanted to be good at it, but the day I realized I didn’t have to have all the answers that I had to listen and be present with my client was the day that I really. Felt independent. I really got my freedom. That’s when you’re really in the moment with them and letting the process become that organic experience where to have the day where you might see a bunch of people for the same issue.

And it’s a different session every single time. Not just for the sake of novelty, but because that’s what the experience called for. Yes, yes. And it is different every single time, even if they have similar issues. So I’ve got, uh, I’ve got some things that I do with my clients. I do. I, I, I manage their expectations, find out where they’re going.

Um, you probably are familiar with the, um, uh, well formed outcome questions or outcome specification exercises and nlp when you talk to your client and get narrowed down what it is they really want. You know, the hardest clients are the ones who don’t have any idea what they want, I think. Mm. And trying to figure out what it is they really want and where we’re going, but if you can get them to really latch onto what they want and know what they’re going to get out of it, boy, change can be easy.

Change can be so natural, and then they, they’ll call you back or they’ll text you or they’ll come in at another time and say, Oh my God, that was so easy. What can we do next? , which is that beautiful moment of, again, continuing that story of here’s what, here’s where the journey started, and as you’re getting deeper into it and finding what it’s really about,

oh, Hello? Did I lose? There we go. dropped out for a second there. And, uh, back in there. Uh, hey, I’m Kate. Cut this segment out here as we have a nice transition there. I like how I talk directly to my editors here and it makes me not have to type. Um, do you want do, uh, an optin offer off this to, to do like your list of words and then also use that to point to the book?

Um, sure. Okay. Then I’ll give you a clean transition into it. Um, host it on your side. I’m sorry, say that again. Should we, should we do the opt in off of mine or off of yours? Um, this is going out next week, so we got time to program it. Yeah. How, um, how would it, I, I’m not sure how it would work off mine.

Yeah, I can do it off of mine and set it so it shares the data with you and you just give me the handout then that’ll copy those people to you too. Sure. Okay. So, um, I’ll give it the in transition in three, two. And I know that I saw you talk about this actually previously back at the, uh, at the Im DHA Convention, which is part of why I invited you on to celebrate the independence of your hypnotic process.

Uh, can we share, can we share that handout, uh, with the listeners? Absolutely. I’ve got, I’ve got a, a preliminary handout, Jason, that it absolutely will, we’ll share that right away. It’s the top 20 magic change words and, uh, patterns. And so it’s, it doesn’t have the 20 words, but it’s got words and patterns that you can use.

And I think it’s, uh, a really nice preliminary list. Um, yeah, we’ll make that easy if you just head over to work smart hypnosis.com/uh, we’ll make it forward slash magic words. And just put those two words together as one. So work smart hypnosis.com/magic words. That’ll redirect you over to the show notes for this session.

And that’s where you can actually go in and, uh, get a copy of that magic words and Pattern Form. Uh, now this comes out of your book too, correct? It does. And you mentioned, uh, the I M D H A conference, IAC conference. Uh, I’m going to brag for just a moment and say, um, I was really surprised and so happy that my book won their pen and quill award.

This. So I was thrilled about that. Absolutely. Congratulations. I’m not, I’m not here by any stretch of the imagination to sell the book, but if, uh, but if you do buy the book, there is a place where you can go, uh, and get an list, language patterns and, and magic words. But this one that Jason’s gonna hand you is going to be a great place to start.

And it’s easy fun. Why not make your work more? And because you’re already using these strategies, you can begin to realize just how easy it is when you have more strategies that you can put those scripts down and celebrate that independence even more. And here’s another thing, before you use it on clients, you can also practice on waiters, on spouses, on telemarketers.

can’t tell you, I don’t, I don’t often answer the phone when a telemarketer calls, but, but if I’ve got some time and I feel or. That’s an old Oklahoma word. Mm-hmm. , I’m from Oklahoma originally. Uh, if I feel Ony I’ll pick up and talk to the telemarketer and my goal is to get them to take me off their calling list, but I will play with them with magic words and language patterns and get ’em very confused and, uh, let them know that, you know, uh, you’re probably wanting to never talk to me again, and a person might take me off the calling list and never have to mess with me.

Imagine not ever having to waste your time with me ever again. , you probably already know that. All you have to do is take me off your calling list and that’ll be very easy for you and it’ll be automatic. I’m wondering if you take me off your calling list now or if you take me off your calling list as soon as we hang up because sooner or later I’m off the list and we’ll never have to do this again
I love that. I’m not the only person saying, Using your time on the phone to practice your skills is . We always have some bit of, uh, tech support type thing we have to do. I had a scheduling software that I use just suddenly had one little thing it wasn’t doing, and this morning on the call, I’m going, while I’m on hold, I’m going to be as kinesthetic as I can be on this call.

you know, I know, I know they’re gonna answer the question, but just this just doesn’t feel right and it just, Yeah. Something about this is just it, it’s rough and. , you know, just seeing that, yes, if I could shift the language and suddenly she’s using it too. So yes, , that’s lovely. I like, and that’s what we do, practice your skills wherever you are because they’re fun.

Uh, one of my students, uh, is a waitress, uh, part-time and she works at an Italian joint and she, you know, part of the job is at the end of the meal you’re supposed to, Upsell them into dessert. And she was one evening not selling any desserts and she thought, Let me use a language pattern and see what happens.

And so at her next table she said, If you get des, if you get dessert, you can take it home, then you can have it for breakfast in the morning. Or you know, if you buy dessert to, if you get dessert to go, then you can have it for breakfast in the morning. Every single table bought dessert after that. Nice.

For the rest of the evening. So play with it wherever you can just use. And also you don’t have to do this just, and even for the student who is maybe still in that kind of dependency upon the scripts, to find those moments, to set them down and just, and just to sort of, uh, va off of those words and put them into use.

Once they use ’em a couple of times, it becomes so easy that it is the gateway to freedom from Osis. There you go. And isn’t that a wonderful. Karen, awesome having you on here, . It’s always fun to be with you, Jason. I love it.

Jason, Lynette here once again, and as always, thank you so much for interacting with this program and I’ll share the stage here to tell you to head over to Amazon and pick up Karen Han’s book Magic Words at Language Patterns. We’ll link to it in the show notes [email protected] Plus check out hypnotic essentials.com.

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