Session #30: Seth-Deborah Roth’s Medical Hypnosis – Part 1

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This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast session number. With Seth, Deborah Roth Medical Hypnosis part one. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, Your professional resource for hypnosis training and outstanding business success. Here’s your host. Jason Lynette, call it a milestone, but I’ll take number 30 as being a good sign.

It’s Jason Lynette here, Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, and really excited to share this conversation that I just had with Seth Deborah Roth. There’s so much information here. We’re actually gonna split it up as two different sessions, so part one, today. Two will come to you next week. And specifically we’re gonna be talking about medical hypnosis and more focused on the condition of ibs irritable bowel syndrome, which is this one little category of work where so much research points to hypnosis as being just one of the best and most effective ways to help people who suffer from that syndrome.

So check out this session. We did this specifically. I actually bumped up the production on this one as Seth. Deborah has. Great webinar event that’s coming up in a couple of weeks. The first week of February, it’s gonna be, Let me scroll up here to my notes here. Thursday, February 5th, 5:00 PM Pacific, 8:00 PM Eastern Replays will be made available to everybody as well.

I shortened the website so you can get to it a little bit more easily. Just head over to work Smart hyp. Dot com slash ibs. That’ll take you right over there to the registration page. Let’s jump right in. There’s a lot of content here. This is part one of medical hypnosis with Seth de Roth.

I’m still seeing clients I’ve, I. I love seeing clients. I love changing lives. I’m working on my IBS protocol using all my experience, the knowledge of, of the body system, and getting a little bit more pinpointed. You know, I just finished, uh, doing a cancer. Protocol, not protocol really, but you know, a certification.

And I originally and long, long, long ago, days of my life, I was an oncology nurse. So I have a lot of experience of the needs of patients and family and caregivers. A deep appreciation of the ways that we can help, you know, really understanding the needs of these people and it’s actually not being addressed.

And, uh, cancer patients have a very, very large amount of anxiety. I mean, we all know, although we all should know, , that hypnosis works on, you know, nausea. It can work on time, distort. And those kind of physical things are revving up the immune system. But then the. Area that’s really not frequently addressed is the emotional needs, the anxiety, the financial obligation, the obligation of caregivers.

You know, that they get burned out. Even the discussion of, you know, the end of life, what to do. How to talk to people while you are still alive. How to take care of all these quote unquote loose ends. Doesn’t mean that that’s what’s going to happen, that you’re going to die, but just the taking care of that can actually start the emotional healing, and then your immune system is better able to do its job well.

It’s one of those things. I, I’ve run into this with clients that they’d read an article, they’d come across some piece of information, and they’d look at, let’s, let’s stick on cancer for a moment. They’d look at that as this bigger category and say, Well, what is it that hypnosis does for that? And really, it’s exactly what you just said.

It’s breaking it down into the individual components. And that even if we’re just addressing the nausea, even if we’re address, just addressing the, the sleep improvement, just simply by doing those things alone, there’s wonderful benefits to that, first of all, about improving a quality of life, but on top of that, it helps everything else that they’re doing to work on their health.

In many ways, it puts them in a position for that stuff to work better. Would you agree? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I was just working with a young gal, Gosh, she’s. I think she’s 27 or 28 and has breast cancer. Um, we, we found, discovered a really important connection in, um, that she was having premarital sex.

Um, well, she’s Asian. I don’t wanna tell too much. Mm-hmm. , but I don’t think this will say who she is, but she was Asian and there’s certain things that you don’t do. And, um, she was having, uh, premar. Premarital sex with a married man before, before she ever met her, her current husband. And she had this tremendous, um, guilt about this and, um, where we actually worked on this and, and releasing these feelings.

And, um, her on code numbers actually went down a little bit. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, there’s no real quote unquote, scientific evidence about this kind of connection, but when I was working in the oncology unit, what I did notice is that people, uh, two, three years before they were admitted, they actually had a significant.

Traumatic, um, social event that they were really holding onto and not able to, to let go. Basically and just kept on reliving it over and over and over again. Hmm. And, um, that mind body connection is very, very real, you know? So, um, it is the way that our thoughts communicate with our body is, is. Through these biochemicals, these neurotransmitters.

And, and if you think, Okay, well I’m transmitting this, these thoughts are being transmitted into chemicals in my body 24 hours a day, seven days a week, you can imagine. So if you are, you’re, you’re flowing this throughout your body, you know, for a whole year, right? What is it going to do to your body or a whole lifetime?

Like when we talk about, um, arthritis? You know, and that internalized anger, just eating away at your bones and your joints, you know, um, it, it makes, it makes sense even though we, we can’t like put a, um, a pinpoint This is happening, this is happening, this is happening, which is what scientists like to do, right.

Um, but, but when you work in the field and, and you see it over and over again, it’s something that you can’t. Well, I mean, if there’s, there is a connection there. I, I can recall, I think it was a talk that I attended of one of yours at the NG convention years ago that was, correct me on this. It was a presentation for doctors, for medical staffs that was all about stress and the effect it has in the body.

Correct. Something along that nature. Right. And we can make the connection. It’s a. This plus this equals that, as opposed to this equals that, that here are events that are causing stress and the stress is causing this experience. I, I don’t think anybody, either you or I or anyone listening to this, would even dare say that here was this woman and because she had that experience, that’s why she has cancer.

I don’t think any of us are gonna say that, make that statement yet. If we know the effects of stress and we know how stress underlining the next word may affect the body. That by making those connections, anything we can do to improve that quality of life, not just physical, but also emotional is gonna be a benefit to that client.

Right. You know, we, we don’t know how this works. I mean, it could be as simple as not taking enough to deep breaths and not getting oxygen to yourselves because you’re stressed out. I mean, who knows how it works, but definitely, um, The nervous system, the, the what’s called the HP A Access, The Hypothalamus Pituitary Adrenal Gland access has its own circulation.

And doctors know that this, you know, it’s accepted. So, but the thoughts are what stimulate, you know, how we interpret, um, our external world. You know, gets interpreted in that hypothalamus and the emotions, and then stimulate the pituitary gland, which stimulates all other endocrine organs. And at the same time, the pituitary gland will send out information, um, to the adrenal glands.

And the adrenal glands go put out cortisol, adrenaline, epinephrine, and so forth. Forth. And those. Having certain effects on the different parts of the body now, everyone seems to, There’s no problem. Accepting. Okay, I’m going to speak up in front of a class. I feel like I’m gonna puke . Right? People, people get that mind body connection or your hands get sweaty when you go to meet new people, right?

People understand that mind body connection. So when you tell them that, you say, So what else is happening on the internal level that you are not aware of, that your thoughts are in charge of? , right? And then people go, Oh yeah. And when I work with my, uh, my medical H clients, I always go through, uh, that mind body connection because when they understand the connection, first of all, it’s going to increase their belief system that this hypnosis works.

But it actually does work because then, then you start to be, um, it even let. We work with somebody and we do regression, and we bring something up to the forefront of their conscious mind. Well, now they can actually consciously work on it and recognize it. Oh, okay, I’m doing this. I’m do, This has to do with this old stuff.

Now let me tell myself consciously rates, for instance, Well, this is old stuff that’s just creeping up and what I’m re-asking to is not so much. On what’s happening today, but from my perception of what happened many years ago, absolutely, and, and I’d be curious, I didn’t know we’d be moving to regression.

Let’s jump into it for a moment here. There’s many people who would be critical of that style of work about, it’s focusing on the problem, it’s focusing on the problem, and I, I would respond to that. They’re not looking at that process as what it’s really about the, The way that you’ve described it kind of fits into my perception of it too.

To say that really for me, it’s an opportunity to get the client into a position where it’s logical and it’s effective for basically them to do direct suggestion hypnosis on themself, on their old beliefs, on their old ways of feeling, on their old systems, of how things used to be. So they’re the one pulling themselves out of it.

So maybe not so much about where we end up, but the why you don’t have to be feeling that way anymore. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It’s like, it’s like holding, holding the hand of your inner child. , Right? And going, Okay, I understand what’s going on. Now, of course, in hypnosis we can, we can work with the inner child too.

We can, we can release things. Um, even with people that say who, who are passed on, you can have a conversation. You know, it’s, it’s like regression doesn’t stop at the discovery. You need to work with what you’ve discovered. For instance, I have, um, this fellow, uh, for IB. And we did the protocol and it was really doing well, but it was still lingering.

So as it turns out, in regression, go into that feeling going to, um, heat, it had to do with shame and, um, Again, I’m trying to make sure that I don’t give away too much of this, uh, confidentiality, but it had to do with shame of an incident that happened to him with regard to Warren. And we had to repair that shame, you know, and work with it number, you know, repair it, but also gives him back the confidence.

Um, and I’m gonna go back to repairing the. And his GI symptoms have finally made a turnaround. Now, you don’t have to do that with every client, you know, but sometimes it, there’s something that you need to deal with and not feeling with it. Just keeps on putting a bandaid on it. I describe it as like, you have an infection, right?

And you go and you put a bandaid, you know the wound is, is seeping out and you put the bandaid and that’s great. It stops, you know, it catches the seepage, but at some point you may actually have to go pierce that infection. And irrigate it and clean it out. I’m using really nursing at terms. I realize.
I’m glad we’re recording at lunchtime. Thank you,

Oh, that’s funny. You know, so, so, you know, the, the infection clears up and you may have a little, you know, you’ll recognize that there was something happening there, but the infection is cleared up and you could go on, you know, and not keep on putting bandaids on it, not keep. Um, you know, addressing Okay.

How, you know, giving a person anxiety relief tools is wonderful and necessary. And I do it for every client because life is going to happen, but to have, having to use it all the time can get a, you know, you, you really need to sometimes just fix the problem. Yeah. You’ll emotionally release the. . Absolutely.

Absolutely. So I love to kinda jump into things from a bigger picture, but also get more specific here. This category that we now have of medical hypnosis, how would you define that? Ooh, I, I, gosh, I never thought of it. Um, using hypnosis slash hypnotherapy therapy for relief of symptoms. Or clearance of issues that maybe are causing the symptoms.

Okay, great. And you specifically have the background of also being a nurse. How would you respond perhaps to, let’s say, a newer student of hypnosis or someone who’s already working in hypnosis, who has an interest in making use of this category of work, about how would it be that they are, let’s put it simply, they’re qualified to also work with this as.

Oh, interesting. I teach that in my, my medical hypnosis certification training that I do. By the way, I’m also a nurse and eist also. So, um, I tell them, you know, let’s say you’re going to speak to a doctor and so forth to recognize that you are the expert. in hypnosis. You’re not there to become a nurse or a doctor.

I mean, if, if I wanted to, I could always feel less than an anesthesiologist per se. You know, so it’s not, it’s about you being the expert in your field. Yes. I believe that having an understanding of the different systems that you’re dealing with, whether it’s digestive or respiratory, or you know, when we’re dealing with pain, to having an understanding about that and how the mind is involved in it, um, just helps you to feel more confident as a hypnotist.

Um, but you don’t have to be a. Or a doctor to deal with this stuff because they don’t know anything about hypnosis generally, except maybe pediatricians every once in a while. They’re, they’re pretty, they’re good about that. They, they understand waking hypnosis and, um, about what they understand is waking, hypnosis, GI docs, um, if they’re well trained, they.

Should know that hypnosis slash hypnotherapy works for ibs. There’s been so many studies. Yeah, so much research for that. You’ll, you’ll love this. I was, I was at my dentist about maybe a year ago. It was a brand new dentist. The, he recently expanded the practice and brought on more dentists, and it’s the new one that I have.

In front of me, and it’s that moment where he goes, And of course I make it a point that I use my business email address on every medical form I ever fill out. And, um, You too, huh? Oh, yeah, Yeah. I have actually switched doctors at one point because the doctor said, Yeah, I’d probably never refer to that.

And I went, You have competition and moved on elsewhere. Um, this experience where the dentist looks at me and it says, Oh, hypnotist, are you mostly elmanian or are you eon? And it’s that moment of, Dude, we gotta talk . Um, yeah, finding a lot of dentists that have a lot of exp, most of, uh, Elman’s students were in the categories of, a lot of them were dentists, a lot of them were podiatrists, so, Right.

There’s a lot of that tradition continuing on as well. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s funny. I, I ran into a fellow on an airplane when I was going to lecture in London and I told him I was a hypnotist and he said, Oh, Eric, Sony or the regular hypnosis, and I, we had a great conversation. , he’d actually trained with Tony Robbins, um, and taken his most ex, you know, for years.

Evidently it just finished graduating and had, um, it was a great conversation. Mm-hmm. . I have to crack the joke then and tell the story of, uh, it was a moment. Uh, I, I’ll leave what the surgery was out of this process, but I’ll say it comfortably. We’re happy with two kids and we’re going through the procedure and I’m about to be led back into the room and the nurse goes, Oh, hypnotist, I should watch my words.

I trained with Ron Eslinger for the, uh, anesthesia program. Right. Uhhuh. So these people are out there. Yeah. And, and I share, we, I’m sure we’re sharing these stories, not just to share anecdotes, which they are and they’re fun, but this stuff is so much more widely known and accepted than I think many hypnotists would give a credit for.

Would you agree with that? Yeah. You know, it’s about finding the right audience, right? So, um, you know, nurses. are more open to this because they call a guided imagery. Mm-hmm. , and in nursing we do waking hypnosis without knowing that we’re doing waking hypnosis. That’s been the feedback of every nurse who has taken my class, which was I now know how to do things on purpose that I was doing by.

Ooh. I love it. I love it. There’s a great YouTube video showing a, uh, pediatrician giving an injection, uh, to a kid, and he’s, he’s just like, um, Taking his mind here, there, here or there. He injections. He injects him and then he takes a box of tissues and just takes out one tissue after another into the boy’s face.

And the boy forgets that he ever had an injection . So cool. So cool to watch. Yeah. Us in the medical field, we, we do it. We’ve just never been told, um, what we are doing. Um, I trained at Kings County, um, Medical Center and in the anesthesia program, and there was a lady, I, I don’t know her last name, her first name was there.

I mean, I used to know, but I’m getting old. I forget these things, . Um, but she actually wrote a book, I think it was the dummy guy through hypnosis or the clinical, I can’t remember her first name was Theresa. You know, so, I, I think because of her, where I trained, it was more accepted and we talked about it more.

Although the first time I ever saw, um, hypnosis in, um, that I really didn’t know. What I was seeing was an anesthesia training and there was a fellow, he, this is back in Brook. And he, he had gotten the mafia mad and he opened up his garbage pale and a bomb went off and Oh wow. So he had, he had burns all over his upper body and his face, and we couldn’t put the, um, anesthesia mask on his face.

He was getting his skin graft from his leg to, um, other areas. And my, my, uh, anesthesiologist who was training me, she started to, to talk in his ear. and suddenly he just went limp and they did the procedure with just little niss, um, over his nose, not even making contact with his face, which means he’s getting a lot of room air.

And NIS is not an anesthetic, it’s an analgesic. It just makes you kind of. Forget where you are, but he just won live and they did the skin graft. And so that was my first exposure to using hypnosis in, you know, in a painful procedure like surgery. Although I guess I had seen it, like dressing changes, but never like in a real painful procedure, you know what I mean?

So, um, Wow. Wow. It is, it is getting more accepted. Yeah, I wanna come back to that. I wanna make sure we get in, um, your webinar that’s coming up. It’s Thursday, February 5th, and I’ve got it here in front of me. I’m gonna make this easy for everyone listening as well, cause the actual website to attend this upcoming webinar is, I’ll read it out.

Life transformation secrets.com/ibs relief slash free dot s htl. Uh, if you just go to work smart hypnosis.com/ibs and make sure that’s lowercase IBS as an irritable bowel syndrome, that’ll just redirect right over to that page. And what are people going to learn on that webinar? . Well, we are going to learn, of course, the basic mind body connection with the parasympathetic sympathetic system and and so forth.

But we’re going to learn about the enteric nervous system, which is its own separate bidirectional system of the gut and the brain that even in nursing school, they usually don’t teach you. You know, everyone talks about their parasympathetic and sympathetic, but not so much the inter nervous system. So we’re going to learn the, um, anatomy, the physiology, the function of the inter nervous system, and then we are going to learn about different, um, areas, the lifestyle.

How I, Well then about, of course, what IBS is and, um, the different types of ibs. It’s not just one type. You’re going to learn about the meditations, the most current medications that are being used, and the, uh, the grading system that doctors use to, uh, Figure out what medication that they want to use because you know, when a client is going to come to you, they’re gonna tell you what stuff they’re on.

So it’s, it always makes you feel better to know what it is they’re talking about, but remembering we’re not, you know, you’re, you’re not acting as a doctor or nurse and giving any recommendations, but it’s just good to know this stuff and. I’m getting lost here in my thought . So, uh, we’re going to talk about the, um, the effects on lifestyle.

They’ve actually made studies on how IBS affects lifestyle. Um, and then we’re going to be doing, um, different energy, eft, root cause technique, um, emr, uh, different energy system, you know, uh, and different anxiety. Programs are going to be discussed. And then also the protocol. The protocol is based on Pson from, uh, Chapel Hill.

He has a, a, they did a large, large study there, and it is the accepted protocol, but it is only allowed to be used if you are a, uh, nurse or a physician, um, you know, life and so forth. So what I have done is I have designed my experience with. The principles of his protocol into my own seven step protocol.

And, uh, that way people will have it and they can use it for their clients, um, whether or not their nurses and, you know, licensed nurse and that kind of stuff. That’s great. And again, that’s an upcoming webinar. It’s gonna be Thursday, February 5th, and you can find the details about that. Just head over to the redirect page of work smart hypnosis.com/ibs.

That is a free event too. Right. Absolutely. Free event. Absolutely. Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast and work smart hypnosis.com. Hey, it’s Jason Lynette here, just with one last thing. Uh, I’d ask you this question. If your goal is to grow a hypnosis business, Well, how’s business going?

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