Session #42: Eugen Popa – Mentors in Hypnosis

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So you could just have one mentor in hypnosis, or you could also have 30 plus mentors in hypnosis. This is the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast, session number 42 with Eugene Popa, mentors in hypnosis. Welcome to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast with Jason Lynette, Your professional resource for hypnosis training and.

Standing Business Success. Here’s your host, Jason Lynette. Hey there. Welcome back. It’s Jason Lynette here and I’m excited to share this program with you today featuring Eugene Popa. I’ve been meeting to have Eugene on this program ever since I started the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast. As you’ll hear from the recording, you, Eugene Hailes from Romania.

When I first met him, he was actually living in Thailand at the time, which of course, I first met Eugene when he was in Clinton, Tennessee. Yeah, really. Uh, we were actually both attending the NGH certified instructor training with Captain Ron Eslinger out there. So really unique experience to first of all, travel and hang out with Captain Eslinger, but then also meeting Eugene as part of that experience as well.

Someone who I’ve got to know over the years, someone who I’ve been definitely interacting with. We’ve capped up, we’ve connected to conventions and this project that we’re gonna be talking about on one side of things, I’m just excited for him. It’s a really cool project. Little similar in terms of the podcast structure here, but with what he’s gone into, he put together a specific series of questions that he asked.

Very select group of people that for the most part, we’re also then referring each other. You gotta talk to this person, you gotta talk to that person. I’m part of the project as well, so there’s an extended interview with me and some of my thinking in terms of the hypnosis profession and what we do. And then a bunch of other folks as well, some of which you’ve also heard here, but the format of what he’s doing, That’s what really makes this unique.

Videos, downloads, transcripts, and eventually a book will be a part of this as well. You’re gonna hear all about it in this program. Make sure you listen towards the very end, because there’s a promo code that we’re gonna mention. That actually gets you this program at a massive discount. Though I’d comfortably tell you the amount of quality content that I’ve already seen in advanced preview and I’ve been interacting with this thing should have been a much higher cost.

So the investment is low. I haggled Eugene down. We got a nice little promo code for you as well. Whether you interact with his program or not. I know you’re gonna find this program today that I’ve got with him. Very interesting. Let me give you two website links to be aware of just with some helpful information.

First of all, Eugene’s website, uin popa.com, spelled exactly as you would. Okay, now I’ll spell that out for you. E U G E N P opa.com. That’s his website, eugene popa.com. And then the project we’re here talking about is mentors in hypnosis, which very simply is mentors in hypnosis.com. Let’s jump right in with Eugene Popa.

So I went to this workshop on publishing. And the guy was talking about, you know, you can write a book and you can do this, and you can do that, and you can talk to some people in the business, in your business, whatever that business is. And it’s like, hmm, let me think about it. And so on one Wednesday morning, I remember the time, if I look up, I can even tell you the date.

And I remember leaving that place and I said, Well, this is like the best morning I’ve had the entire year because you just packed with information. Some guys previously talking about Facebook advertising, and I know you’re doing something on Facebook advertising, which I think is great because a lot of people don’t know how to do Facebook advertising, and I know your staff would be awesome.

And after that there was this guy who came up, his name was Jerry Roberts, and I want to mention him because he really is, you know, probably. The direct or indirect cause for his whole project. So he talked about writing a book and it’s like, Hmm, what should I do? And then he mentioned, you know, talking to some friends and peers in the business.

Oh, well let me talk to Jason about it. And that’s when I contacted you and I said, Hey, I’m working on this project, would you like to be part of it? And before I finish the sentence, you said, Yes. . And so that got me thinking . So I said, Well, this is cool. Then I contacted, uh, Tom Coll. He was like, Wow, right.

So let’s do this. You know? So I contacted a few other guys and every single person I contacted, he said, yes. Like I said, well, maybe with one or two exceptions. And then I said, Well, you know, we started as a book project and I was talking to people about the book, but then it kind of started to grow in and by itself it was like unfolding right before my eyes and, you know, quoting quote, kind of lost control over it, but it was rather it was leading me.

Mm-hmm. . And so from then on, I did a lot of interviews. Right now, I think until now I’ve done like 30 or 35, almost rough. And then, like I said, it changed into, you know, a project where people can go online and watch these interviews, and I think it’s great value for the amount of money people would pay because you get like 30 plus people from all over the world, Mostly us.

That’s true. But also from Australia, also from Canada, from South Africa, from. And I was talking to Roy Hunter, who’s also part of the project and he actually wrote something very nice. He said, This is centuries of experience in one place. Yes. And that’s true because you know, if you put, had together had to had all the people who are part of the project and the number of years they put together, it is hundreds of years of experience.

and so basically that’s how I started, you know, started as a kind of a book project. The book is still in the working, actually I’m planning to finish it by the end of July and have it ready for the NG convention and the Hyp Thoughts Life Convention and those actually who will sign up. For mentors in hypnosis, we’ll actually get a further discount of the book.

So the book price will be, I don’t know what, right now I don’t have on a clear number, but for sure those who are purchasing a membership on mentors in hypnosis.com website will have a discount when the book is out. So let me ask you this cuz I’m always curious to chat about it from this perspective that for the most part, and correct me on this, you went into this project with the goal to interview 30 plus people and for the most part you had the same questions for everybody.

Yes, the questions are for everybody and 90% the same for everyone. And the reason is because, of course, I’m totally biased on these questions, right? , I didn’t do a survey and say, Hey, what are the most common questions? I gotta say, these were the questions which I had my myself when I started doing hypnosis, and even today, when, and after a while, I, I’ve been pressing for a while and I still have some over those questions and I wanted to have answers to these questions.

Well similar to that, I just asked you that question cuz I wanted to know, because I mean, with the podcast here, I’ve been talking to uh, yeah, about 30, 40 plus people over the last, almost a year now. Yeah. And just again, it’s interesting to hear the same question can get so many different responses.

Similar to, similar to, I mean, how, how we all work in hypnosis, that we all have our individual styles. You and I have a lot of crossover in terms of trainings and opinions, but I’m sure we do things very different from each. For sure. And you know, sometimes I got some answers that completely and totally challenge the status quos in the world of HSIs.

You know, some people say, Well, you cannot change this or that. And other people say, Well, I’ve done that the other day. I completely change whatever. Something, You know, some people say, you know, never do regression. Other people say always regression. Mm-hmm. and never do this method or others say, Only do this method.

It’s, it’s crazy, you know, and it’s great. One thing, which I noticed though, one of the common denominators I would say that I’ve noticed that is that almost everyone say, Go and study with as many as you can. Mm-hmm. , and I love that, you know, because even, you know, people who start practicing, hes so often get stuck in this is the only way to do it.

And it’s not, there is no such thing as the only way to do it. That’s my opinion, my personal. . Yeah, I, I’d share the experience of class that’s going on right now at my uh, center. That person was asking, Why do you have the pain training from these two people? And the answer was, Cuz they don’t agree with each other.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Which one’s right? They both are, depends on the person, the client who’s in front of you. Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. So, of course, uh, about 10 minutes in. Let’s put you on the spot. I’m curious to ask what surprised you going through this project? And again, just to recap it, this is a project that you’ve put together, interviewing 30 plus people in hypnosis names that people very likely recognize, perhaps a few that they’re about to meet as well.

Yeah. What surprised you going into. I think the biggest surprise and the most pleasant of all actually, it was the willingness to do it. Yeah. I wouldn’t read, not even call it willingness. I would call it the excitement. To do it. It, like I said, almost every single person I’ve talked to and, you know, they understood what the idea is about.

They’re excited. It’s like, wow, that’s a great idea. That’s a great project. I, I’m looking forward, I’m thrilled. And also during the interviews, you know, it’s so wonderful to see people opening up. Even, you know, some, some of the questions are very touch. Towards the end of the, the, the interview, but also along the interview.

Mm-hmm. , some of the questions are very touch and they’re, you know, almost getting personal. But I, I believe that in order for someone to be a really good hypnotist, they really have and a really good person, if I may even expand on that, is, it’s good to know the plus and the minus, you know, the apps and the downs of those who’ve gone before us.

You know, I like to think. Mentors in hypnosis, you know, what they say. You know, as I knew this and you know, I see further because I stand on the shoulder of giants and I see this project very much in the same words. Those are, you know, the giants in the world today, and everyone can learn. You know, I, and one other thing, which surprised me very much besides their excitement, besides their willingness to openly share the highs and the lows, the best and the worst of their career.

Was also a third aspect is those mentors that I’ve contacted, I’ve spoke and I’ve interviewed, they say, Can I have access to the site and see the others because I wanna learn from the others. And that was like, wow, you know, I gotta love this world. I, I love this business and I love this atmosphere because I didn’t have this, you know, I’m the best.

And the rest is like, you know, nothing to count. Now actually, people who’ve been doing hypnosis for 34 years, they like, Oh, I’m curious what others would say. I, I wanna hear what others would say, you know? So, yeah, I’m very excited and surprised by this. Well, I share that from the perspective of putting together this podcast, putting together the series that I do.

Yeah, it’s kind of similar to if you listen to anyone else who does programs like this and who am I thinking of back in the days of Mark Marinn is a comedian who does a really cool podcast called wtf, and it stands for exactly what you think . But it’s really cool to see sort of the lineage of. He’s there interviewing an actor and they go, Oh, you should talk to this person.

And there’s something fun about the fact that, hey, that’s now recorded now. And that creates a bit of an obligation on one side. But the way. People then begin to reach out to you to be a part of something like that. It really, it’s an interesting comment. My scope in the last year or so has been about how do we increase that reach?

How do we spread this awareness? How do we stop practicing within a bubble and pretend that only this. One community of people exists. Yeah. When there’s people all over within groups, some with out of groups. I mean, I’m looking at the lineup here on your mentors and hypnosis.com page and just such a wide spread of people from all different experiences.

For sure. For sure. And one of the questions is, who are your mentors? And just the other day, I was interviewing Richard Long. And it was so funny because, you know, he spoke about his early days mentors and then he said, Well, but I have mentors, you know, people that I’ve learned through like, you know, Scott Sandlin and then Jason Ette and uh, Kelly T.

Woods. And it’s like, wow, that’s great because all of those names are in this list. You know, they on the website was like, Wow, good for me. You know? Good for everyone who’s listening because all the names he mentioned. Part of the project. And so, you know, it was very gratifying to me to see that I’ve done something right with this project and I, I loved it.

Yeah. There was a project that was done, oh, I forget when this was done at one point. Had a interest in magic and mentalism stuff. Mm-hmm. and a guy by the name of Ben Cuming. So I believe actually is also a stage hypnotist of remembering Right. Okay. Put together a project called Conversations with Mind Readers.

And it’s actually still available for those of you listening to this that do have an interest in those other studies. Yeah. But it was a cool thing cuz again, a similar format of interviewing 30 plus people and it’s that long form interview process as opposed to what we’d see on like a late night talk show where everything is rehearsed and perfectly timed.

Yeah. It’s that raw. I mean, you asked me some questions throughout that that I. Surprised to get yet. Very happy to share cuz it’s something that Yeah, some of the challenges that I went through growing in this profession are ones that others would face as well. Absolutely. And you know, there are a couple of people who wanted to have the questions beforehand.

Mm-hmm. and, um, I like to come with a question as it comes rather than knowing beforehand what the question. Because if you have it beforehand, Sure. You know, on one hand you can say, Well, if I have the question beforehand, I’ll be able to give you a better answer when we come to it, when we do the interview.

But on the other hand, the best answer is the best answer when you give it and is that natural flow. And there’s that, you know, you ask people to come up with something and then they come up with something. The naturalness, if I would say, of the flow of the interview has an intrinsic value and I prefer it that way.

Exactly. So let’s rewind things back. What is it that first got you into Hyn? Hey, no one’s interviewing you for your project. Why not? Yeah, I know. I know. Actually, I was asked this a few times if I were doing this and if I would include myself in the project and I, I don’t know if I wanna do that, but maybe I will.

I don’t know. I’m still on the fence with it. What got into hyp knows as well. I’ve always been fascinated by the mind, always, you know, ever since I know myself, I’ve been fascinated with the mind. And as you know, I’m also doing a side business on, uh, parenting because I was fascinated with the mind, with the brain and its functions, and I wanted to see how the brain develops and then you take the brain from the moment it.

Times to form, which is in the womb, and then later years and so on. And of course, just like everyone else, hypnosis was something mystical and magical. And then some years in 2000, like middle of 2000 or late 2000, I, I took a few NLP trainings and. There was the Milton model in that thing and I was like, Oh, you know, interesting.

Hyp knows. Let me dig a bit deeper. And I started to look it up and then I started to search the internet for hypnosis courses and I found a few trainers out there and then I decided to go with, uh, one of them, and then I did, and before, I actually went to the class. My initial training was with Jerry Kind, and one of the reason is because he was all over the place, all over the internet with his home study course, which I got, and I watched his home study course a couple of times and then I said, I gotta go and train with this guy.

So I flew to Florida and they, one of the training, I think it was the most eerie day in my life, and I, I tell you why, because if you watch Jerry kind’s videos of his home study course, All of the videos are just from the same angle, from the back of the room, and he’s front. Mm-hmm. . And when I went to his course, where did I sit?

At the back of the room, Just where the camera would have been. And when he comes in the course in the class and he says, hello everyone, and starts talking and, and he says the same spiel as he would do on the video in my head I was like, Am I in Florida in on the chair in his classroom or am I on my sofa in Buquet back home?

And I was like switching back and forth between the two. I could almost switch in my head. I’m in Florida, I’m in Buist, I’m in Florida. I’m in because it was, I’m telling you, I was spaced out for like two or three days. It was just amazing and it was one of the best trainings I’ve taken. I have a few others, which I really, really love.

All of them. I love because I, I learned so much from all of them, but that was the first training, so of course it stuck with me in a special way. So then what makes up the most of your time these days, in terms of just what you’re doing? Well, right now I’m full on full power working on this project, and uh, it’s very interesting because starting this project got me thinking about, about, I have about two spinoffs from this project, which I’m planning on pursuing.

But first I wanna launch this, and so most of the time now, You know, finishing up on the website, clearing up the transcripts, videos, editing, and just getting ready to launch in a couple of days. So this is what it is Now. After that, I’ll be traveling around the world teaching trainings in Brazil and in Europe.

And then hopefully you, I’ll see you guys in, uh, US in. Awesome. And we wanted to do a bit of a promo here for the people who are actually listening here right now, right? Yeah, absolutely. Awesome. Yeah. If not, you are now. All right, . So for anyone and everyone who’s listening this podcast from, uh, Jason Leonard of Virginia Hypnosis, we have a promo, and that is by you listening to this podcast.

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Cool. So let me ask you this. Someone will make it general for this purpose. Yeah. What do you feel, and this is the most wide open question I can ask you. Uh, what do you feel is the real benefit of someone, whether it’s a podcast series like mine, whether it’s your program, whether it’s going to these conventions, what would you say is that real benefit of someone?

Reaching beyond, perhaps let’s say it as their comfort zones in terms of what they already know, someone in hypnosis, stretching, and listening to others. What would you say is the real benefit of. Well, I’ll give you a a slightly indirect answer to this. You know, my motto is, learn, grow, share. So if people are listening to this podcast, that means that they are interested in learning, they’re interested in growing, they’re interested in, in being better, smarter, faster, you know, whatever you wanna call it, ear in the end.

So if people are interested in learning, they’ll go and search for information. Podcasts like yours, mentors in hsia.com and any other size of their matter, they are a resource. They’re a resource for people who want to know more, who want to learn more, who want to expand their knowledge, their toolbox and their experience.

And they can do so by listening or watching people who’ve done this before them, you know, who’ve, who’ve already gone through the hoops. So the number one thing that you gain by going the extra mile is you gain the knowledge. You gain experience and of course also you gain extra tools that you can use either for your personal betterment or for helping others.

I have a saying is, and it goes like this, if we stop learning, we start dying. And I don’t want to die. . Thanks for listening to the Work Smart Hypnosis Podcast and work smart hypnosis.com. Hey, it’s Jason Lynette here, and I wanna thank you for listening to the program today. If you’re a regular listener, chances are you know that I usually wait to the very end of the program these days to share with you a little bit of promotional content, Though I want to yield.

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